simplyophidian Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Ive found a lot of stability problems with my TWINX2048-3200C2PRO RAM and I was hoping somone could provide me with the proper timings for ALL of the settings? Ive tried to hunt them down in various places beyond the standard 2-3-3-6 timing that is listed on the website. After applying those settings from auto the system became more stable but it is still far from being truely stable. I am nearing the point where I want to just buy new RAM and say forget it. This is hard for me because I have been a fan of Corsair RAM for so long. It might be cheaper to just get a new motherboard looking at RAM prices though. Im hoping if I can set ALL the RAM settings from AUTO to what they SHOULD be I can cause the instability to go away. If anyone can assist me with this RAM it would be incredibly helpful as I have been dealing with it since April of this year. Thanks Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplyophidian Posted December 18, 2006 Author Share Posted December 18, 2006 My mistake. Im not sure if I posted my motherboard. I am using a DFI Lanparty UT CFX3200-DR running a single X1800XT Video Card.. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted December 18, 2006 Corsair Employees Share Posted December 18, 2006 Please follow the link in my signatue and look up XMS3200C2 for the tested settings but I would make sure that you have the latest bios and then load setup defaults and set the Dim Voltage to 2.1 volts and then set the timings manually to the tested settings for the specific module you have, and then test the module/modules one at a time with http://www.memtest.org! If you still get errors, please follow the link in my signature “I think I have a bad part!” and we will be happy to replace them or it! However, if you get errors with both modules that would suggest some other problem and I would test them in another system or MB to be sure. In addition, with this MB you have to disable legacy USB in the bios when running any memory test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplyophidian Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Thanks RAMGuy.. I will check into it when I get home. Although I ran Memtest86 and over a 16 hour period did not find any errors. The instability seems to occur during operation on Windows. Before it was frequently happening during AVI file play. I assume AVI is fairly memory intensive. I will tweak the settings to exact specifications as per your signature. I'd hate to have to trash my DFI board, I really like the features it has and I don't feel like removing it all and re-setting it back up. If you have any more comments.. feel free to throw suggestions at me.. Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 I would try installing another hard drive and running a fresh OS install. Once you have installed the OS and the Hardware OS drivers, please test for the issues that you are now finding. If you have no issues, then the problems have very likely been software issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplyophidian Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 That was a quick reply. I have accualy done just that. I was running Windows XP x64 previously and having the trouble. I figured at that specific point that the problem was due to the lack of support for an x64 operating system. I loaded up Windows XP Pro and I was still having the same issues. I may be nearing that re-format point soon anyhow.. I need to backup some stuff and then reload one of my 2ndary SATA drives with a new OS. I REALLY need stability. While I like the RAM for its gaming purposes my dayjob is a software developer and sometimes I need a SQL server running along side a webserver and it needs to be up and running incase Im not home and I need to check stuff from outside. Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted December 19, 2006 Corsair Employees Share Posted December 19, 2006 Did you set the memory Voltage to 2.75 Volts and test the modules one at a time to see if you can isolate this to one module? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplyophidian Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 For some reason I don't think this is a defective module problem, though that will have to be ruled out. Reguardless memtest never showed any errors after a pretty long run. Im thinking it may more have to do with how this particular motherboard handles this RAM on the "auto" settings. Typical crash behavior is this : Computer is on for say 6 hours. I come back and sit at my desk. I use the web.. Do a few things.. 10 or 15 minutes into sitting down.. It freezes. The computer detects the freeze and within about 10 seconds it auto-reboots. It also used to happen while I was watching AVI files that were hours long. Say a movie or something. At some point the audio/video would get choppy for about 3-4 seconds then crash. Im going to try the settings in your comment right now. By the way, THIS is the reason I am a corsair fan. I never have trouble finding technical support of any kind. I contacted DFI 2 days ago and still no response unless they responded in the last hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplyophidian Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Alright I went over the settings. The only real difference was the Cas Latency being 2.0 instead of 2.5 because I use an AMD machine. I could not find a bank Interleave setting. I took 2 photos of my full bios of my computer. I will post up the photos and maybe you can see something I don't see. Also I could not find the 2.1v Dim setting. I have the DRAM volt set to 2.74 I believe. Thanks a bunch. Ryan Edit: If my RAM is bad can I drive up to Fremont and have it tested? I live just south of there and I don't want to have my computer down for days. Its bad for lots of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Two things. Is your power settings in your BIOS set to S3? If not, give that a try and for testbed analysis, can you remove the Video card and install another. Even a PCI video card. The problem might well be an issue with regards to video/heat thermal radiation. Your explanation brings to mind some heat issues of the X1800. How is your case cooling? What fans do you have and what model X1800 card do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplyophidian Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 I don't know about the S3 setting. Im not sure even what kind of setting that is. As for the cooling/video card, the card has a stock cooler which blows air directly out the back of the case. I have a high RPM fan mounted on the case sitting directly above the video card so that it has plenty of fresh air. I have 2 intake fans mounted in the front of my case taking up 2 CDrom size bays. Ive checked my video temperatures and they are all within good ranges even under high stress. Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplyophidian Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Here is my bios settings. If there is anything you can see horridly or even mildly wrong, please tell me.. Thanks a bunch Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Did you follow RamGuy's suggestions? You say that you don't think that the ram is the problem but lease follow RamGuy's suggestions. He's been doing this a long time and it helps to be sure in order to isolate the issue. Don't disregard this just because you "don't believe" the ram to be the issue. As well, I asked you to check in the BIOS for the Power settings "S3". You say you don't know what it is and you don't say if you looked for it. It is very hard to help someone when they refuse to follow any directions. Please try to do what we ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplyophidian Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Wow. When did I appear arrogant? When I gave my opinion? I never disreguarded his opinion. In fact I praised it. I had never heard of an S3 power setting. Perhaps if you had been more vague I might have found it. Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Where did I call you arrogant? I did not mean to give the impression that I think you are arrogant. Excuse me if I was too blunt when asking you to respond to RamGuy's questions. Please excuse me if I seemed harsh. I just wanted you to focus on the questions that he and I asked of you. test the modules one at a time to see if you can isolate this to one module? I see no response other than you saying that you don't think the issue is the ram. . Is your power settings in your BIOS set to S3? With regards to my question about the S3 power settings. I said that it was in your Power Settings of your BIOS. I do not have your computer and different BIOS's have different power settings but S3 is pretty standard. You can go into your BIOS, look to the power settings and look for the S3 settings. Did you test the modules separately? I do not see your answer about this anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted December 19, 2006 Corsair Employees Share Posted December 19, 2006 Derek is just trying to help! Its hard sometimes because it may seem that we might be brash or blunt but I assure you there is nothing ment by it just trying to help you solve the problem is our goal. So I do appoligize if you felt you were wronged it was not the intent! And did you test the modules one at a time to make sure one was not failing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplyophidian Posted December 20, 2006 Author Share Posted December 20, 2006 No I have not had a chance to test the individually. You have to understand that the crashes happen anywhere inside a 6-24 hour timeframe. After I applied the set Speed to DDR 400 and applied a CAS Latency of 2.5 for AMD chips I want to see if it becomes stable. I got a reply from DFI. They said "I would say that DFI LanParty and UT type boards by their very nature are designed from the ground up to be overclocked and have multitudes of settings to more finally adjust the board for performance memory. Auto and by SPD settings often are just not the ticket for stability and require user manual adjustment to work their best. It is also best to run memory on that board in the Orange slots and not the yellow ones as many users in the forums at http://www.dfi-street.com have found over the course of time and testing. " RAMGuy: Could you please look at the screenshot of my bios that I posted and see if you can see anything out of the ordinary or wrong? It would be most helpful to me If I get more instability I will try to isolate out a specific DIMM. It is apparent though by the email DFI sent me that most RAM needs configuration on those boards. What happened to the days of plugging RAM in and just having it work? Thanks Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted December 20, 2006 Corsair Employees Share Posted December 20, 2006 Those settings should be good to go! But did you set the memory voltage to 2.75 Volts? And I would encourage you to test the modules one at a time to be sure. In addition, if you get a stop error code I would search for it at http://www.microsoft.com/technet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplyophidian Posted December 20, 2006 Author Share Posted December 20, 2006 Yes, the DRAM Voltage is set to 2.75. You had mentioned setting the Dim Voltage to 2.1 volts in your first post but I cannot find a setting for it. I am going to remove the chips tomarrow and check them one at a time. I am also going to track down an X1950 that is in my friend's computer and try and eliminate the video card from the possibilities. Sucks if I have to replace the card, its under warranty but I have to sit for a few days while it goes to Canada and gets shipped back. Too bad they aren't in Fremont as well, then I'd drive a few minutes and have them test it there :D Ive seen people run this board fine with this exact RAM now. Ive seen people give up using this exact RAM on this board. Who knows.. I just want it to freaking work 100% and be able to leave the machine on for 30+ days. Thanks again RAM Guy Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted December 21, 2006 Corsair Employees Share Posted December 21, 2006 2.1 Volts was just a Typo error on my part sorry DDR1 memory should be set to 2.75-2.9 Volts We can sure try replacing your modules if you want to try that! Please use the RMA request found in TSXpress or follow the link in my signature “I think I have a bad part!” and we will be happy to replace them or it! And please note that you are from the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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