Hun73r Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 I have a Gigabyte GA-M59SLI-S5 Mobo w/ Bios F5. and TWINX2048-6400C4 memory modules. (matched pairs of 1gb) The advertised timings are 4-4-4-12 trc-22 w/ 2T cmd Rate. I cannot get these timings without errors in Memtest and SP2004 ORTHOS. I even overvolted ram by .1 and .2 and still got errors. My mobo when set to Auto, it reads 5-5-5-18 trac-23 w/ 2T cmd rate. I can't find anywhere to activate the EPP profile in the bios (4-4-4-12 Trc22 2Tcmd) Im fairly sure the Modules are not defective because i get no errors after hours of ramtest and sp2004 at the auto settings. But get errors almost imediately (only a few minutes into test) when set to advertised timmings. (with overvolt and without) I need help! Here is some more info on my system configs. Processors Map -------------------- Number of processors 1 Number of threads 2 Processor 0 -- Core 0 -- Thread 0 -- Core 1 -- Thread 0 BIOS Tables -------------- K7/K8 PSB found at address 0xFB040 PSB version 1.4 Voltage stabilization 100 usec Ramp Voltage Offset 25 mV Max voltage step 50 mV PLL lock time 2 us Number of P-States 5 Processors Information -------------------- Processor 1 (ID = 0) Number of cores 2 Number of threads 2 (max 2) Name AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+ Codename Windsor Specification AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4600+ Package Socket AM2 (940) CPUID F.B.2 Extended CPUID F.4B Brand ID 4 Core Stepping BH-F2 Technology 90 nm Core Speed 2411.3 MHz (12.0 x 200.9 MHz) HT Link speed 1004.7 MHz Stock frequency 2400 MHz Instructions sets MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64 L1 Data cache 2 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size L1 Instruction cache 2 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size L2 cache 2 x 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size FID/VID Control yes max FID 12.0x VID range 1.125V - 1.300V K8 Thermal sensor yes K8 Revision ID 5.2 Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 0 Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 1 Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 2 Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 3 Chipset ---------- Northbridge NVIDIA SPP190 (C51XE) rev. A2 Southbridge NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI rev. A2 Graphic Interface PCI-Express PCI-E Link Width x16 PCI-E Max Link Width x16 Memory Type DDR2 Memory Size 2048 MBytes Memory Frequency 401.9 MHz (CPU/6) CAS# 5.0 RAS# to CAS# 5 RAS# Precharge 5 Cycle Time (tRAS) 18 Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 23 Command Rate 2T Memory SPD ------------- DIMM #1 General Memory type DDR2 Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000) Size 1024 MBytes Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz) Part number CM2X1024-6400C4 Manufacturing date Week 29/Year 06 Attributes Number of banks 2 Data width 64 bits Correction None EPP yes (1 profiles) Timings table Frequency (MHz) 270 400 CAS# 4.0 5.0 RAS# to CAS# delay 4 5 RAS# Precharge 4 5 TRAS 13 18 TRC 15 22 EPP profile 1 (full) Voltage level 2.100 V Address Command Rate 2T Cycle time 2.500 ns (400.0 MHz) tCL 4.0 clocks tRCD 4 clocks (10.00 ns) tRP 4 clocks (10.00 ns) tRAS 12 clocks (30.00 ns) tRC 22 clocks (55.00 ns) tWR 6 clocks (15.00 ns) (DIMM #2 = Same) Thank you very much in advance. -Hunter ---Addition Dec 3 2006-Sunday I noticed the corsair lab report on these modules says advertised timings are at 1.9v, and default is 1.8v I have overvolted .1 which equals 1.9v and i get errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hun73r Posted December 6, 2006 Author Share Posted December 6, 2006 I'm still stuck on this, anybody have any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uqdroma Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 I can at least answer the EPP question...I don't believe all mobos support EPPs. Namely Intel and Nforce Intel editions--until the 680. Check to make sure your particular Mobo supports EPPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hun73r Posted December 6, 2006 Author Share Posted December 6, 2006 The GA-M59SLI-S5 Does support sli ready memory and EPP profiles. (AM2 board) It doesn't really matter anyway if i can get the "EPP" active or not b/c i can manualy set the VDIMM, and timings to the specification of the EPP, however it does not run stable. I am dropping the timings 1 by 1 from 5-5-5-18 to 4-4-4-12 and ramtesting/cpu stressing after each to narrow down which timing is giving me errors. This is going to take a while but at least i can monitor the tests from VNC at work. So far i have the CAS down to (4)-5-5-18 and its stable. Next i will move the RAS to CAS delay to 4, and so on. I am shooting at trial and error here so if anybody has any recomendations PLEASE let me know, as this will take me a while to figure out. PS - i'm running a ram divider of 6 and a cpu multiplier of 12 = 2:1, getting this to 1:1 would that help me with my problem, or at all in general? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted December 6, 2006 Corsair Employees Share Posted December 6, 2006 Please make sure that you have the latest bios and then load setup defaults and set the Dim Voltage to 2.1 volts and then set the timings manually to the tested settings for the specific module you have, and then test the module/modules one at a time with http://www.memtest.org! If you still get errors, please follow the link in my signature “I think I have a bad part!” and we will be happy to replace them or it! However, if you get errors with both modules that would suggest some other problem and I would test them in another system or MB to be sure. In addition, with this MB you have to disable legacy USB in the bios when running any memory test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hun73r Posted December 6, 2006 Author Share Posted December 6, 2006 Bios is F5 Didnt know about the Legacy issue... The programs i have used for testing the ram run from windows, not sure if that changes the issue or not (assuming not b/c you say "when running any memory test"). I will now use memtest86+ just for consistency. I will disable legacy USB, Set modules to 2.1v and set timmings manualy to the SPD info. I will re-test each module individually, then together (assuming no errors) Thanks for help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted December 6, 2006 Corsair Employees Share Posted December 6, 2006 NP Please let me know how you make out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hun73r Posted December 6, 2006 Author Share Posted December 6, 2006 Of course, as soon as i figure it out, the answer will be here. Nothing nicer than to google a part number and find somebody with the exact hardware and problems you are having. Not to mention the answer is there too! -Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uqdroma Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 In addition, with this MB you have to disable legacy USB in the bios when running any memory test. Is this common with most Gigabytes? AMD, Intel, Nforce, or either. I have the GA-8N-SLI v1.1 and wondering if I may have been affected by this issue. :idea: BIOS is F5. Maybe a link to more info on this? It could prove to be interesting reading for me. :sunglasse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hun73r Posted December 6, 2006 Author Share Posted December 6, 2006 Yes it would, if you find more reading on it, let me know too please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hun73r Posted December 7, 2006 Author Share Posted December 7, 2006 set the Dim Voltage to 2.1 volts and then set the timings manually to.... I can't help but notice that on the Corsair labs performance report #12580 that the default vdimm detected was 1.8v (what mine was detected at) and that the default speed and timmings advertised are at 1.9v (not stable at 4-4-4-12 on my rig) So 1.9v - 2.1v = .2v more than what is advertised. Is this safe?- it must be b/c you told me to do so and you're the "RAM GUY". But why such a large delta? .2v seems to be alot to me. Even the Highest FSB at advertised timings doesn't go over 2.0v vdimm. I have an x2 4600+ in my rig, and the corsair testing was with an fx-62. Could this be why? A little confused... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Reading the qualification FAQ: http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52351 They are warrantied up to, but not over, 2.1 volts, so this setting is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hun73r Posted December 7, 2006 Author Share Posted December 7, 2006 Thanks! That is reassuring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hun73r Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 The bios legacy usb setting was the culprit in the memory stability testing. Setting it to disable put the system stable at 4-4-4-12 1Tcmd @800mhz 1.9vdimm(dual channel) with no errors after 20 hours of stress test. Again, thank you for your help. -Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted December 12, 2006 Corsair Employees Share Posted December 12, 2006 You are more than welcome and thank you for letting us know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hun73r Posted December 12, 2006 Author Share Posted December 12, 2006 More than happy to! You're welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted December 12, 2006 Corsair Employees Share Posted December 12, 2006 Me too! :D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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