deltaworld Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 My system seems to reboot/crash at random points for no apparent reason. The system is up-to-date with the latest BIOS and drivers. The system has never been previously overclocked. It has started to become alot more frequent recently. I have re-installed a fresh copy of MS Windows, checked all the connections. Uninstalled and reinstalled the RAM, Heatsink and SATA drive. I have checked the temperatures and they are CPU 21c | SYS 33c | PWM 37C GPU CORE 66C | Ambient 46C I have contacted ABIT regarding this and they recommended I try decreasing the FSB Manually to 200Mhz and increasing the DDRV to 2.70V and 2.80V respectively. I did exactly as they had said but that still did not resolve the problems. I then ran memtest86. I ran memtest86 for 13.5 hours continously and that provided no errors. I then tried to eliminate what could have been the cause. I removed all PCI cards, and all hard drives apart from the 80gb hard drive for the OS. and only left the NEC DVDRW and the 1gb of ram installed. I CMOS'd the BIOS to default settings and proceeded in installing a fresh copy of windows. Upon doing so the computer crashed twice during install. The first time it crashed it presented a BSOD with the following error. CDFS_FILE_SYSTEM STOP: 0x00000026 (0x000401F4, 0xF73E1FA0, 0xF73E1C9C, 0xF79B7EF8) *** cdfs.sys Address F79B7EF8 base at F79B3000, DateStamp 41107eb1 I reset the system and re-installed windows and it crashed again with 7 minutes left on the install procedure. This time it did not present a BSOD but it freezed. I reset and re-installed Windows for the 3rd time and it installed successfully. I then went ahead installing all the latest drivers. Whilst downloading the latest drivers from the net, the system rebooted twice. 1st time, no BSOD 2nd Time, BSOD with the error message: STOP: 0x0000008E (0xC0000005, 0xBF83BC6F, 0xF6B2B3CC, 0x00000000) win32k.sys - Address BF83BC6F base at BF800000, DateStamp 41107f7a. I then tried a different PSU. I installed a QTEC 400W PSU and left the PC downloading files from the net. After approximately 2 hours it had BSOD with the following error message. DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x0000000C, 0x00000002, 0x00000000, 0xF48598DD) tcpip.sys - Address F48598DD base at F483A000, DateStamp 43c7103c I checked the Event Viewer for any errors but it did not present any around the time that the system had crashed. I took out one of the Corsair TwinX memory module so that system is now running with only 512MB in Single mode memory. I ran the memtest86 overnight for 9.5 hrs = no errors. I then ran Prime95 Torture Test>blend for 2 hours with no errors Next I ran Prime95 Torture Test>Small FFT's and it came up with an error after 14 minutes of running the test. This is the screen it showed on Prime95 when it halted: Beginning a continuous self-test to check your computer. PIease read stress.txt. Choose Test/Stop to end this test. Test 1, 800000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M172031 using 8K FFT Iength. Test 2, 800000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M163839 using 8K FFT Iength. Test 3, 800000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M159745 using 8K FFT Iength. Test 4, 800000 Lucas-Lehmer iterations of M157695 using 8K FFT Iength. FATAL ERROR: Resulting sum was 1348061092544752, expected: 1348061092543730 Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file. Torture Test ran 14 minutes - 1 errors, 0 warnings. Execution halted. I took the Corsair RAM out and replaced it with C.rucial 2x512MB PC3200 CL=3 Part Number: CT6464Z40B I connected all the hard drives and DVD/CD Drives back and ran the same Prime95 Torture Test>Small FFT and it is still running fine for over 2 hours and the system has not reboot. Any ideas? My Spec is: AMD Athlon 64 3500+ (Newcastle) | Akasa Evo33 ABIT AV8 | Corsair TWINX1024-4400C25PT | Tagan TG480-U01 80GB 7200.7 | 120GB 7200.7 | 250GB Spinpoint SP2504C XFX GeForce 6800 GT AGP Dual DVI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted April 19, 2006 Corsair Employee Share Posted April 19, 2006 Can you tell me the bios settings you have set for both CPU and memory and any performance settings that you may have set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltaworld Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 They were set to the BIOS's default setting Freq : 2247.43 MHz (204.31 * 11) RAM Size : 1024 MB RAM Freq : 204.3 MHz RAM Type : DDR-SDRAM Dual Channel RAM Ratio : CPU/11 RAM Timings : 2.5-4-4-8 I did a CPU-Z Validator at the time when the Corsair was installed, the link is http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=87630 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted April 19, 2006 Corsair Employee Share Posted April 19, 2006 You will need to manually set the CPU and memory Freguency with these modules. Please load setup defaults and set these settings and test the modules with http://www.memtest.org. CPU Freq: 200 MHz Memory Frequency: 100%/1-1/DDR400 Dim Voltage to 2.8 Volts Resulting Frequency: 200MHz Memory Timings: Manual/User Define SDRAM CAS Latency: 2T SDRAM RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD): 3T SDRAM Row Precharge (tRP): 2T SDRAM Active to Precharge Delay (tRAS): 5T All other settings should be set to Bios default or Auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltaworld Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 How long should I run memtest86+ for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted April 19, 2006 Corsair Employee Share Posted April 19, 2006 At least 2-3 passes should be enough to show if you have a failing module or not. If you get errors in test 5, 7 or 8 that would suggest some other problem, but if you have a failing module you usually will get errors in test 3 or 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltaworld Posted April 19, 2006 Author Share Posted April 19, 2006 13 passes on memtest+ 1.65 with no errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted April 19, 2006 Corsair Employee Share Posted April 19, 2006 You can try and set the SDRAM RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD): to 2T and see if the system is still stable. But I think you will be good to go with these settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltaworld Posted April 20, 2006 Author Share Posted April 20, 2006 23 passes with SDRAM RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD): to 2T = no errors and it seems stable so far. Thanks RAM Guy How come the system was not stable on Auto or SPD? and are these timings tighter? better performance? If I have my CPU:RAM to 1:1 timing with the FSB at 225Mhz / 550Mhz for the RAM should I set it back to SPD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted April 20, 2006 Corsair Employee Share Posted April 20, 2006 Yes these are more aggressive settings and if the system is stable I would use these for best performance, if you are not going to over clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltaworld Posted May 25, 2006 Author Share Posted May 25, 2006 I have followed your suggestions and have set the RAM at 2-2-2-5 1T I am currently trying to get the best out of this RAM as it is a PC4400. The highest successful overclocking I have managed to get with these settings is outlined below. If I set the FSB to 202 it becomes unstable at either 2-2-2-5 1T or 2-3-2-5 1T Freq Multiplier LDT Vcore Mem Timings 2211Mhz 11x201 LDTx4 Def. 2-2-2-5 1T I have tried different configurations with the RAM timings and to loosen them up to allow a higher clock speed. I have also tried increasing the CPU voltage to try to eliminate whether it was the CPU that was causing the instability. As the RAM was unstable at SPD, could the RAM be the cause of this instability Below is a list of settings that I have tried and they have all proved to be unstable. Your help would be much appreciated RAMGuy Freq Multiplier LDT Vcore Mem Timings 2255Mhz 11x205 LDTx4 Def. 2-2-2-5 1T 2310Mhz 11x210 LDTx4 Def. 2-2-2-5 1T 2255Mhz 11x205 LDTx4 Def. 2-3-2-5 1T 2255Mhz 11x205 LDTx4 1.525 2-3-2-5 1T 2255Mhz 11x205 LDTx4 1.525 2-3-3-5 1T 2255Mhz 11x205 LDTx4 1.525 2-3-3-6 1T 2255Mhz 11x205 LDTx4 1.55 2.5-3-3-7 1T Regards deltaworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted May 25, 2006 Corsair Employee Share Posted May 25, 2006 That might suggest you are under powered. Can you test the modules in another system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltaworld Posted May 25, 2006 Author Share Posted May 25, 2006 You mean that the RAM is not receiving enough Voltage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted May 25, 2006 Corsair Employee Share Posted May 25, 2006 No your system is not getting enough power! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltaworld Posted May 30, 2006 Author Share Posted May 30, 2006 Could this be the motherboard or the PSU? The PSU is a Tagan 480 W TG-480-U01. I have tried c.rucial RAM and I am having the same problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted May 31, 2006 Corsair Employee Share Posted May 31, 2006 I would suggest testing with another PSU if you can, and I would try and manually set the timings to like Cas 2.5-3-3-7 at 2T and see how high you can get. Also you need to lock the AGP frequency when you over clock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltaworld Posted June 2, 2006 Author Share Posted June 2, 2006 As you have mentioned I have tried the Corsair Modules in a different system, but unfortunately the system that I had tried it into is a basic system and the motherboard does not have any overclocking abilities or RAM timings options to change, so left on the default settings I ran Prime95 for 6 hours and it showed stable. ________________________________________________________________________ The PCI and AGP are both locked. I have set the timings to 2.5-3-3-7 2T and exchanged the PSU to a QTEC 400W PSU. I have tried a couple of settings 202X11 ldtx5 Stable 203X11 ldtx4 Stable 205x11 ldtx4 Unstable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted June 2, 2006 Corsair Employee Share Posted June 2, 2006 With the Video Card you have you need to have a minimum of 18 amps just for the Video card. So I would suggest a minimum of 500 Watt with the configuration you gave. Not to mention your system is heavily loaded and you should consider that when you look at the PSU to get. 550-600 would be Ideal for your configuration with 500 Watt minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltaworld Posted June 3, 2006 Author Share Posted June 3, 2006 I borrowed a Tagan 580Watt PSU from a friend of mine and plugged that in, the results I got were: 2244Mhz: UnStable 204x11 ldtx4 mem timings: 2.5-3-3-7 2T, vram 2.8V, vcore +0.025V, pci/agp locked. 2244Mhz: UnStable 204x11 ldtx4 mem timings: 2.5-3-3-7 2T, vram 2.8V, vcore +0.050V, pci/agp locked. 2244Mhz: Stable 204x11 ldtx4 mem timings: 2.5-3-3-7 2T, vram 2.8V, vcore +0.075V, pci/agp locked. 2255Mhz: Stable 205x11 ldtx4 mem timings: 2.5-3-3-7 2T, vram 2.8V, vcore +0.075V, pci/agp locked. 2266Mhz: Stable 206x11 ldtx4 mem timings: 2.5-3-3-7 2T, vram 2.8V, vcore +0.075V, pci/agp locked. 2277Mhz: Stable 207x11 ldtx4 mem timings: 2.5-3-3-7 2T, vram 2.8V, vcore +0.100V, pci/agp locked. 2288Mhz: Stable 208x11 ldtx4 mem timings: 2.5-3-3-7 2T, vram 2.8V, vcore +0.100V, pci/agp locked. 2299Mhz: UnStable 209x11 ldtx4 mem timings: 2.5-3-3-7 2T, vram 2.8V, vcore +0.100V, pci/agp locked. When I get my 480W PSU, I will try these settings again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted June 5, 2006 Corsair Employee Share Posted June 5, 2006 Is the system passing http://www.memtest.org? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltaworld Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 2299Mhz: UnStable memtest+: Passed 209x11 ldtx4 mem timings: 2.5-3-3-7 2T, vram 2.8V, vcore +0.125V, pci/agp locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted June 6, 2006 Corsair Employee Share Posted June 6, 2006 Please call our Tech Support at 1-800-205-7657 when you are in front of your system and we can try and help you solve the problem. Our hours are from 8:30 AM to 5:30 PM Pacific Time Monday thru Friday excluding holidays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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