DarqAngels Posted January 20, 2006 Share Posted January 20, 2006 Hey guys, just built a new system. a8n32-sli deluxe 3800 X2 w/ Zalman 7000alcu cooler TwinX 2048 4000 Ram Evga 7800 Gt Ultra Xfinity 500w 120mm fan for some reason at stock speeds i get an error in prime95 in under 1 minute and whenever i play a game i get a random crash after about 5 to 10min, and i get random reboots as well. Anyone have any clues? I'm kinda pissed i thought i built a sweet system and its unstable even at stock... :confused: :mad: UPDATE: I turned off automatic restart on system failure, seems like i'm getting BSOD's most are metioning the NTFS.SYS last time this happened on a system build it was my Ram, it just so happens that ram was corsair as well... : / Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqAngels Posted January 21, 2006 Author Share Posted January 21, 2006 Yup its the RAM for sure, I ran memtest and it came up with 10 errors in only 3 min. so yea... :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted January 21, 2006 Share Posted January 21, 2006 Let's troubleshoot it first. What timings / speed / voltage are you testing the memory at? Are you testing one stick at a time, in each slot? Which memtest and version are you using? What CPU / FSB / Motherboard do you have? Click here to add your system specs to your profile and posts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqAngels Posted January 21, 2006 Author Share Posted January 21, 2006 this is out of the box timings with no overclocks at all, everything is running stock speeds. i'm testing the memory in its normal dual channel form, newest version of memtest. The Specs are in the first post but here they are again Athlon X2 3800, a8n32 sli deluxe, if by fsb you mean front side bus i'm running at auto. I can't bother to overclock if its not even stable at default settings. just added my settings to my profile as well. The system is so unstable i have to use my girlfriends laptop. by the way arn't twinx memory modules pretested prior to shipping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted January 22, 2006 Share Posted January 22, 2006 Set the memory voltage to 2.7 / 2.8 volts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqAngels Posted January 22, 2006 Author Share Posted January 22, 2006 still errors and crashes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqAngels Posted January 22, 2006 Author Share Posted January 22, 2006 i'm starting to think i picked the wrong ram, but it showed this ram as the best for OC'ing on the compatability. This memory doesn't want to seem to run in dual channel mode, i had it working when i put both memory sticks in non dual channel mode. but thats no good. i see alot of other people using 3500ll and stuff like that. maybe i should switch. or will this ram be better if it starts to actually work? be it an rma or some magic bios button lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees Apps Lab Posted January 23, 2006 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 23, 2006 i'm starting to think i picked the wrong ram, but it showed this ram as the best for OC'ing on the compatability. This memory doesn't want to seem to run in dual channel mode, i had it working when i put both memory sticks in non dual channel mode. but thats no good. i see alot of other people using 3500ll and stuff like that. maybe i should switch. or will this ram be better if it starts to actually work? be it an rma or some magic bios button lol. I am moving this to the troubleshooting thread, maybe you'll get more help there! Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 24, 2006 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 24, 2006 Let's get your modules replaced. Please follow the link in my signature “I think I have a bad part! Or *New* Tech Support Express” and we will be happy to replace them or it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recon_boy Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I crashed a lot until I changed my command rate from 1T to 2T on my mobo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 27, 2006 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 27, 2006 I would suggest 2t Command Rate with that MB and CPU. Especially if you are over clocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqAngels Posted January 27, 2006 Author Share Posted January 27, 2006 yea i tried out 2t same issues, i actually RMA'd the ram back to Zipzoomfly so i'm waiting for them to send me a new set. seems like its taking forever lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqAngels Posted January 27, 2006 Author Share Posted January 27, 2006 how much of a perfomance hit am i taking running in 2t compared to 1t in a gaming system or any system for that matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garvin Posted January 28, 2006 Share Posted January 28, 2006 In certain bench mark tests, you'll see up to 15 to 20%. In gaming, they say 2 to 6%; I see nothing in actual play, fps bench marks are a little lower but games play fine even with all the bells and whistles turned on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqAngels Posted January 29, 2006 Author Share Posted January 29, 2006 so this RAM set isn't really the "ideal" set to buy for my system is it? i figured running ddr500 would be WAY faster than running the xms 3200 but i guess i might be wrong. Just out of curiousity what would you guys choose for the ideal overclocking Ram for this system? I was thinking i could overclock my x2 3800+ from 2.0ghz up to about 2.4 using a zalman 7000b alcu cpu cooler. Figured this ram would be a nice compliment. Running the fsb at like 250 and a 9.5 or 10x multi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1ke Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 I was having exactly the same issue, same motherboard/memory etc. Exchanged the memory twice, swapped processor, and setting the timings manually to what was listed by corsair with no effect. Turning the external clock down to 200MHz with all the other timings listed by corsair seems to have corrected it. Ran prime95 overnight with no errors. Normally it fails within 5 minutes. I'll try stepping up the external frequency a little until the system becomes unstable again. For now I'm just happy that it's running without crashing every few minutes. Would I be better off swapping the memory out for a different type like the 3500LLPro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqAngels Posted January 30, 2006 Author Share Posted January 30, 2006 that is weak... i seriously hope that i don't have to run the memory at 200mhz. Now i'm thinking that the Corsair memory matcher online is incorrect either that or something else is screwy. glad to hear i'm not the only one. Let me know if you've found any other info or posted anywhere else. I'll do the same for you in case i find anything new out. I'm still waiting to get my Ram back from zipzoomfly. Where did you pick up your stuff from? If its zipzoomfly i'm going to wonder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1ke Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 No, I got mine from mwave. I also tried the twinx1024 4000pt from best buy and it was the same deal. Only stable if I set the external clock frequency to 200MHz. I haven't tried stepping it up yet though. It might be ok a little higher than 200, but 250 was definately unstable. I haven't decided yet if I'll just return it and get the 3500LLPro instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqAngels Posted January 31, 2006 Author Share Posted January 31, 2006 well i talked to zipzoomfly and its official the memory was tested and failed they are sending me a new one, i'll let you know how it works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted January 31, 2006 Corsair Employees Share Posted January 31, 2006 Thank you for letting us know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqAngels Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 so i got my new RAM today computer booted up fine. System clock was off, i went into bios to fix it and when i'm in the bios for more than a few min or even seconds it randomly will just lockup. any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqAngels Posted February 1, 2006 Author Share Posted February 1, 2006 just tried to boot to windows and i got a STOP 0x00000050 Sptd.sys Page Fault in NONPAGED area. geez don't even tell me its the RAM again... I'll try reinstalling the entire os since i installed it with that bad RAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqAngels Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 christ... still errors in memtest... this is just retarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1ke Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Other people have had to use some old memory to get into bios and manually set the timings, then put in the corsair ram and get up and running. Mine wasn't so bad that it wouldn't boot but it wasn't stable until I set external clock to 200 MHz. I couldn't tell from your post if you tried that or if it locked up too quickly in BIOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarqAngels Posted February 2, 2006 Author Share Posted February 2, 2006 I used the memory limiter in bios, basicly drops the timings from 250mhz to 200mhz, running prime95, so far its completed test1 and thats never happened as of yet, so is this memory not really good for running at 250? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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