Sector7g Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 may be this ram I have. I have been having stop error crash reports and lots of things indicating my vid card. Ive been having problem on and off ever since i built this system a few years ago. I suspected it was the ram ever since. In fact I sent back the ram and got a new pair, but I was still having issues. As I mentioned above, the crashes would sometime indicate the video card, and I sent it back to ati for service, I got a new card back entirely, but still these problems persist. Just last week I installed a 256 meg stick of corsair 3200 cl2 along side the twinx1024-3200c2pt I have in my system now. I had the extra slot on the mobo and the extra ram so I decided to plug it in. I really didn't notice any difference, but nothing was worse either so I left it in. Two days ago I took this 256 meg stick out and went back to just the twinx 1 gig and all hell broke loose. I was unable to play games or even run a virus check, with out getting the bsod. stop error messages and constant reboots. One of the error messages reported back it was memory and linked me to the memtest, which I ram, but had no errors report. I had contacted ati about stop error messages and was instructed to do some bios changes, basically disable agp functions in the bios and raise voltages. While I was in the bios I decided to change ram setting to rated values (which I hadn't done for a while) SO I set the timing to 2.5 3 3 6 and 2.7 v did the agp disables and saved to rebooted, but the system would just hand after the mem count. so I hit the cmos reset and said I'm going to have to test each mem mod and see if i can come up with anything. after installing 1 512 stick the system would hand after the mem count , I tried nother cmos reset and nothing. Stuck the other mod in and post to bios no prob. Stuck the first mod in and got the same hang at the same place, however this time I left the computer booting while looking at support pages and it finally got to the cmos checksum and I was able to enter the bios. I still have to run tests on this mod which I will do, but I thought id post this computers life story here and see if anyone know anything about this problem(s) Ive been having (assuming anyone reads it) I didn't think Id write this much either ;) EDIT: I might also add I would get memory failed in the speach POST reporter for the asus board from time to time as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted December 19, 2005 Corsair Employee Share Posted December 19, 2005 The PSU you have listed migth be a bit low for the system configuration you have, but I would test the modules one at a time with http://www.memtest.org after you load setup defaults with the modules in slots 2-3 and then set the timings manually again to these settings. CPU Freq: 166 MHz System Performance: User Define Memory Frequency: 100% Dim Voltage to 2.7 Volts Resulting Frequency: 166MHz Memory Timings: Manual/User Define SDRAM CAS Latency: 2.5T SDRAM RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD): 3T SDRAM Row Precharge (tRP): 3T SDRAM Active to Precharge Delay (tRAS): 6T AGP Apature Size: 128 Meg Spread Spectrum: Disabled Then please test the modules one at a time with http://www.memtest.org to be sure one is not failing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sector7g Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 I have tested 1 ram module with the mem test that windows linked me to, not sure if its the same one but I will use both. the windows memory diagnostic picked up errors, however not on evey single pass. In the results field it only lists the last 4 failures, I left the prog running for bout 4 hours and got 15 results. the last for I see are: result pass test cache address expected acual 12 16 stride6 on 0009844 00000000 000000ff 13 16 stride38 on 0102bd98 00000000 0000ff00 14 16 stride38 on 0102bec8 00000000 0000ff00 15 18 stride6 on 00049844 00000000 00ff00ff the test was on pass 20 3/11 (extended tests) when i shut it off Im currently resurching a new case/psuppy as I am aware that with further upgrading I may need more juice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted December 20, 2005 Corsair Employee Share Posted December 20, 2005 Well actually the results you have posted would suggest a power problem or failing CPU or MB. Usually if your memory is failing it will fail every test pass on test 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sector7g Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 I put the fsb to 200mhz and a cpu multiplier of 11. this gives me my 3200+ amd cpu, what it spose to be. If I run the ram at spd/or 100% this is all at 200x2 double data rate which gives me 400 mhz ddr 3200 which this ram is spose to be. however I cannot get the system to run at these settings with random reboots and crashes and errors, mostly pointing to my vid card drivers. I did find a way to get the system to run stable (well not reboots) when I ran the ram at 86% or 83% whatever brought it to 166mhz or 333 which should be ddr2700 which this ram is not. My question is, is there a definite reason why it wont run stable at ddr400 speeds even though its spose to. 1 or all the reasons stated above? cpu/mobo/psupply? I guess Ill just wait to buy my new case/psupply and stick it in there and see if I can run the ram at its rated speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted December 20, 2005 Corsair Employee Share Posted December 20, 2005 Can you test the modules one at a time and lets make sure one is not failing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sector7g Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 OK I tested both in dual channel 200 mhz fsb cpu and 166 mhz for the ram got no errors Tested both in dual channel 200mhz cpu 200mhz ram got 68 errors on test 5, but only on pass 1 (not 0) http://www3.telus.net/sector7g/computer%20errors%20002.jpg Tested 1st stick 200 mhz cpu 200 mhz ram got 800+ errors in test 5 on pass 0 http://www3.telus.net/sector7g/computer%20errors%20012.jpg Tested 2nsd Stick 200mhz cpu 200 mhz ram got 9 errors in test 5 and 8 on pass 0 and another 10 errors just in test 5 in pass 1 http://www3.telus.net/sector7g/computer%20errors15.jpg Tested 200mhz cpu 166mhz ram on 1st stick no errors Tested 200mhz cpu 166mhz ram on 2nd stick no errors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted December 21, 2005 Corsair Employee Share Posted December 21, 2005 The results you have posted would still suggest some other problem I would suggest testing the modules in a known working system to be sure. And did you get a new PSU? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sector7g Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 I have not purchaced another power supply as of yet, but I should be getting one next month. I did try and run the system with another 300w psupply I have here, however I believe it to be less quality than the one Im currently using, with this psupply I would still crash. I did not run tests with this psupply. As for another system, the only one I have access to is a Biostar 200n SFF that uses the nforce2 chipset, but does not support ddr 400 ram only 333 (according to the website) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted December 22, 2005 Corsair Employee Share Posted December 22, 2005 If you have a failing module it will fail no matter what frequency you have them at, so it might not hurt to test them in that system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sector7g Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 If the ram modules did not fail in my currents system @pc333 (166mhz) then they should not fail in a system that I have not experienced any problems in that will run them at the same speed. All it will prove is that the ram is capable of running at 333mhz which I already know is true cause I tested them at 333 on my current system with no errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted December 22, 2005 Corsair Employee Share Posted December 22, 2005 Yes, and that’s why there is an element of doubt about this system. If you have a failing module it will usually fail no matter what frequency you have them at. If it’s some other issue you may get unpredictable results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sector7g Posted March 11, 2006 Author Share Posted March 11, 2006 Ok, new system I tested these in with mem test 3.2 coolermaster stacker 830 enermax liberty 500 opteron 165 (no OC) artic cooling freezer 64 asus a8n32 sli deluxe 2x maxtor sata2 16meg 300gig in raid0 evga 7800gt co se I tested each module seperatly and each one fails right at the end of test 4 and then I get continous errors durring test6 all memory setting were left on auto Im going to test them with manual setting single, I did test them in dual channel mode with 2.5 3 3 6 2.7 and they failed same spots, as well as errors in test 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted March 11, 2006 Share Posted March 11, 2006 Wrong memtest! MemTest86+, latest version: 1.65, updated: 10/01/2005 - use this one! MemTest86, latest version: 3.2, update: 11/11/2004 !!! + is still updated and has support for newer chipsets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sector7g Posted March 12, 2006 Author Share Posted March 12, 2006 same errors all over in test 6 and end of test4 test haulted after 100% test6 667 error tested default (auto settings) in 1107 bios dual ch mode dims a2 b2 will do single tests with manual settings after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sector7g Posted March 13, 2006 Author Share Posted March 13, 2006 Ive been reading some threads about the mobo/cpu combo (not necessarily the ram) and what other have gotten for overclocks, and the ones Ive seen all use 1009 bios and earlier. So I thought id reload the 1009 from the 1103 that i was using and I received no errors threw 1 pass. Just relaying this information, as other might have similar problems with asus a8n32 sli deluxe and 1103 bios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted March 13, 2006 Corsair Employee Share Posted March 13, 2006 Let's get it or them replaced, please use the On Line RMA Request Form and we will be happy to replace them or it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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