jlpoole Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 What is the CFM rating of the fan used in the Cool Water 100-1001? I would like to know what the decibels for the fan might come in at, and that could be estimated by the CFM rating of the fan. Of course, if anyone knows and is willing to provide the part numberf/manufacturer of the 120 mm fan, I could determine this. Has Corsair considered loaning a sample to SlientPC Review http://www.silentpcreview.com for an analysis of the sound envelope? I love the HydroCool200, but it was an unpleasant surprise to find it so noisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drthomas Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 then it has the part number written on it.. (model td1238-l-12) and also the manufacturer at http://www.teifans.com Vising their page, I found the following http://www.teifans.com/files/TD1238-SN.pdf This contained al the information you need Regards dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpoole Posted November 6, 2005 Author Share Posted November 6, 2005 Accordingly, the specifications sheet for the 1238-L-12 has the following: operating voltage: 12 volts voltage range: 8-14 volts m/min: 1.7 CFM: 60 decibels: 26 rated current: .2A Compare this to see the change of the decibel rating to the next model up for the 1238 series (they have a L,M, & H series; corresponding to Low, Medium, High) which has: m/min:2.49 CFM:88 decibels:33 rated current: .4A The Hydro200, a discontinued water cooler, operates at 8 volts for normal mode, 12 volts for turbo. The fan used in mine was an ADDA 1212.HB-F51 which has the following pertinent specs: operating voltage: 12 volts voltage range: NA m/min: 2.952 CFM: 104.80 decibels: 43 rated current: .5A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpoole Posted November 6, 2005 Author Share Posted November 6, 2005 (Thank you, dave [drthomas], for providing the fan identification & URL.) The 26 decibel rating of the fan, at full power, makes this intriguing. Would it be too much to inquire: what is the identification of the pump? The pump in the HydroCool is a Bosch 058 PAD 12volt, "PA 66 GF 30" was marked on the input part. I had modified my HydroCool to lower the fan noise noise only to find the pump's noise became noticeable. I guess when you try to silence components it becomes a game of chasing the will-o'-wisp, the minute you silence one that had masked other noise makers, you then grapple with the the newly revealed noise makers -- all the while taking the operating specs of the system downward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drthomas Posted November 6, 2005 Share Posted November 6, 2005 Follow this link http://www.lainginc.com/DDC_Series.htm Maybe a good description of th Cool is here http://www.rbmods.com/Articles/Corsair/Cool/1.php But there is some discrepency about the rad.... that article, (and others) claim it is the BlackIce Pro while others claim it is a Swiftech like this report at http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=425 One thing backs that up is the radbox, which I understand is a swiftech idea Browsing through articles on this forum, I get the impression that the swiftech is the correct answer (see also posts frm KaptCrunch and Stev (who seem to know what they are talking about:-) Hope this helps Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlpoole Posted November 6, 2005 Author Share Posted November 6, 2005 Dave, thank you, again. It looks like parts change over the production life of the model. For example, drthomas indicates above his fan is td1238-[L]-12 (26 decibels), yet this review http://www.rbmods.com/Articles/Corsair/Cool/1.php indicates the fan in their kit is a Panoflo, model FBA12G12L (30 decibels). Moreover, a review at: http://www.rbmods.com/Articles/Corsair/Hydrocool/1.php on 2003-08-19 states "On the radiator we have a 120 mm fan which is really quiet, you can even put your ear to it without hearing it." On my HydroCool, I could put my ear within 7 feet of the radiator outlet and hear the fan, that's why I replaced it with a quieter fan. For the record, the new fan I used was a Cooler Master Tri-Blade 12025 System Fan TBF-B12-E1 : operating voltage: 12 volts voltage range: not specified m/min: not specified CFM: 31.71 decibels: 19.8 rated current: .14A I found that the cooling capacity went from 77 F to 83 F for Linux server (pretty much idle) powered by an old AMD chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaptCrunch Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 jlPoole keep the same CFM rating for the fan , it hurts the proformace. best is to extend the hoses (my hose 20ft with psu for fans) works fine for i got it in another room. or just use clothes drier tubing out he window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stev Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 The fans used in the HC 200 are: PERFORMANCE: 12VDC 6 WATTS 0.5A, 43.0 DBA MAX. AT 1 METER, WITH LOCK ROTOR PROTECTION. 100.0 SCFM MIN. AT ZERO STATIC PRESSURE, 40.0 SCFM MIN. AT 0.150 IN H2O STATIC PRESSURE. Here are a few that meet this spec: Adda P/N: AD1212HB-F51 AVC (Thermolink) P/N: B1238B12H Sanyo-Denki P/N: 109P1212H1021 These were the fans usd in the HydroCool units. Also, the pump is not "PA 66 GF 30". :p: That's the plastic material ID for the pump cover. It's there for recycling. :D: The Bosch PAD P/N is 0392023000. The Bosch pump is rather expensive, so the Laing D5 or the Delphi/Laing DDC pump is a better solution. :sunglasse Stev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaptCrunch Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 The Bosch PAD P/N is 0392023000. The Bosch pump is rather expensive, so the Laing D5 or the Delphi/Laing DDC pump is a better solution. :sunglasse Stev yes an not use 33% PG like the bosch needs where D5 use 10% is the better solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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