djt Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 I just ordered an Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard and Twinx 2048-3500LL PRO memory. What would be the most optimal settings in BIOS for this board and memory? I’m initially only going to run the memory at PC3200/DDR400 speed; I plan on overclocking it later. Also, I’ll be running a FX-55/San Diego CPU with this setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyKid Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 I take it you're not going with the 3200C2's listed here? Definately a good choice if you're a gamer, the 3500's will perform and overclock a bit better for sure. Testing parameters for TWINX3500LLPro: TwinX2048-3500LLPRO Data Sheet Motherboard make and model: Asus A8N-SLI Premium Each pair is tested and packaged together using the following settings: CPU External Frequency: Manually set to 217MHz DRAM Clock: Manually set to 1:1 or 400MHz SDRAM CAS Latency: 2.0T SDRAM RAS to CAS Delay (tRCD): 3T SDRAM Row Precharge (tRP): 2T SDRAM Active to Precharge Delay (tRAS): 6T SDRAM Bank Interleave: 4 Bank SDRAM VDIMM: 2.75 Command Rate 1T All other settings are motherboard defaults. Maximum recommended VDIMM: 2.9 Since you won't be overclocking you can ignore the line above in bold, but that 217MHz is where they're rated up to when you do overclock a little. Until then, these are very tight settings so I doubt you'd be able to do much better even on a slightly slower BUS speed. PLUR CK p.s. Settings taking from XMS Qualification and Testing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djt Posted November 2, 2005 Author Share Posted November 2, 2005 I’m going to be using the TWINX3500LLPro/2048Mb on the new Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard not the Premium board. Like I said in my earlier post I’m just looking for the tightest memory settings running these modules at PC3200/400 speed. Would the settings you list above for the Premium be the same for the A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard? Thank you for your response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CandyKid Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Yes, they'd be the same for both boards. The 3500's definately have the best timings for 1GB modules at reasonable voltages. PLUR CK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaramBa Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 Hiya! well the question is already asked but i kinda want a specific answer since i'm supernew to this technical hardware stuff.... i work on Maya (3d application) and Zbrush, they're super RAM hungry. So I'mgetting the Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe MB with the AMD 4400+ X2 CPU, all that is left is the RAM, so i read it takes DDR 500 which is supposedly better for me.. but i read low latency problems, i cant honestly risk overclocking experiments since i cant afford to get new ones...fresh grad here! so if there are any1 that already tried it and it works plz tel me... and then i have the twin vs single problem... so i wanted to ask i any1 can be kind eonough to help me out here... gonna get 2gigs or maybe 4 if all works well... so any suggestions... thanx alot ppl! :bigeyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 ??????????????? DDR500 is overclocking, which you said you didn't want to do. Just get a TwinX2048-3200C2 pack, 2-3-3-6 timings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted November 26, 2005 Share Posted November 26, 2005 For the applications you listed low latency RAM will be of no benefit. Also, on the MOBO you have listed 2 DIMMs are highly recommended vs 4 DIMMs. With this in mind, Wired's recommendation of the 2048mb TwinX PC3200 kit should be perfect. However, if you ever intend to play any games, the PC3500LL would be great as the LL will benefit gaming. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I take it you're not going with the 3200C2's listed here? Definately a good choice if you're a gamer, the 3500's will perform and overclock a bit better for sure. Testing parameters for TWINX3500LLPro: TwinX2048-3500LLPRO Data Sheet Hello, I just got my Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe and Corsair TWINX3500LLPro in the mail; I hope it's OK if I jump in with a question. Thanks for BIOS parameters, that's the main thing I was looking for. But my question is, should I just install one memory module at first, or should I start out with both? Asus's QVL shows "pass" only for a pair of modules, yet I've read in some other forums that (generally) one should install just one memory module when building and going for that first POST. It's been a while since I've built a computer, and these memory modules are top-of-the-line, better than anything I've ever had, and I want to do things right. So, is it recommended to start out with both modules installed, or just one? Philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I would install both modules since it is a dual channel MOBO. The only reason IMO to go with 1 module would be in the event that you are troubleshooting or having some sort of issue. Your installs etc should go much faster with 2 modules installed. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 I would install both modules since it is a dual channel MOBO. The only reason IMO to go with 1 module would be in the event that you are troubleshooting or having some sort of issue. Your installs etc should go much faster with 2 modules installed. Mike. Wow, thanks for the quick reply. What you say makes sense to me. I just want to be careful with it because I made such a big investment in the memory. I think it was in the DFI-Street forum (I originally considered a Lanparty motherboard) I saw a primer on building a new system and it showed installing just one memory module to start. They implied that one module was less likely to be problematic, but the Lanpartys look to have a gazillion memory settings so maybe that's why they recommend what they do. All in all I'd rather start out with both modules installed. BTW, my last memory was Rambus that *had* to be installed in pairs. :laughing: Thanks again. Philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Sometimes I'm not so quick but I juat happened to be awake and working. Not to slam DFI but they have had a myriad of memory issues with their current NF4 MOBOs. But, they do SCREAM :eek: when you get them tuned. However, they can be difficult to tune so the initial setup with only 1 module is a conservative approach to reduce variables. You have a killer rig under construction, I'm envious. Have fun, Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 Sometimes I'm not so quick but I juat happened to be awake and working. Not to slam DFI but they have had a myriad of memory issues with their current NF4 MOBOs. But, they do SCREAM :eek: when you get them tuned. However, they can be difficult to tune so the initial setup with only 1 module is a conservative approach to reduce variables. You have a killer rig under construction, I'm envious. Have fun, Mike. Yeah, I was waiting for either the new DFI Crossfire or NF4 Expert mobo, but the discussion at DFI Street about these mobos did not get me enthused. There's also a couple new Abits just coming out, but I never saw any previews or reviews. The Asus A8N32-SLI, on the other hand, got a great review at Anandtech and a lot of praise around the net, plus my last mobo was an Asus, so I went with that. I decided on the Corsair 3500LL Pro memory after asking in an Asus newsgroup and being told that it was the way to go. Then I had to fight to get both the mobo and the memory: it seems everybody wants them! Now I'm just waiting on a videocard. I'd like to get a 256MB 7800GTX for gaming, but they're very expensive. I'm hoping that with the 512MB 7800's being the hot item (even at $750!) the 256MB version will drop in price. Whatever I get will be a big step up. Because my old computer died, I'm currently on an ancient system featuring an Abit BH6, Celeron 300A, 194MB RAM and GeForce4 Ti 4200. :sigh!: Everything I've gotten so far for my new system is amazing, including the Corsair 3500LL Pro memory. It's great too, that there's this forum for questions about it. Philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaramBa Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 thanx for the replies, sorry, i didnt know ddr500 was overclocking, they kinda didnt mention that in the description, i thought its just a newer model. As for the processor, I'm going for the AMD 4000+ sandiego, since dual core 4200 arent as good as far as benchmarks are concerned.. the multi processing is good but i think i need a bigger single thread punch and i cant afford the AMD FX's. The more RAM the better, thats why i wanted 4 gigs, so isnt there like a way i can get 4 gigs without comprimising performance? you can see my specs if it helps. and since i'm killin you guys with questions might as well spill it out, how big of a power supply would i actually need. since its said that the 7800GTX takes 450W alone... going for the 600W but do i actually need that much? (As you can see gaming is always essential! hehe) (PS: i'm not in the states so i'm shipping all the way here -jordan- so i kinda want to make sure before i do get it.) thanx guys! rock on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garvin Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 The link to the nVidia nf4 chipset certified power supply list: http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone2_build.html just scroll down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaramBa Posted November 30, 2005 Share Posted November 30, 2005 well i'm getting the Sea Sonic s12, i already saw it there.. was just wondering if any1 actually tried it.. reviews say its the best.. from tomshardware at least...so i guess i'l take it.. thanx guys... now its just the ram thing to sort out and i'l be there... and crits on my sys would be kewl.. tho i know ur all busy so its ok.. thanx anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 well i'm getting the Sea Sonic s12, i already saw it there.. was just wondering if any1 actually tried it.. reviews say its the best.. from tomshardware at least...so i guess i'l take it.. thanx guys... now its just the ram thing to sort out and i'l be there... and crits on my sys would be kewl.. tho i know ur all busy so its ok.. thanx anyway My only criticism is that you have it and I don't. :(: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaramBa Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 so can any1 help about the optimal solution for 4 gig ram? tweaking or for a specific type... of course on the same MB. thanx again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 The optimal way to use 4gb of RAM is going to involve using an OS other than Windows XP and most likely a server MOBO. WIN XP is only going to allow you to "see" about 3.2gb of RAM due to the way it caches memory. Also, your chosen MOBO, the A8N32 SLI is based on a chipset that does not run 4 DIMMs very well. If you put in 4 DIMMs you will likely see about 3.2gb of it, your latencies will have to be raised, you will run at a 2T (aka - slow) command rate, and have other speed limitations. 4 DIMMs on this MOBO is a bad idea. Depending on your usage and how much you want to spend on RAM, an Intel based MOBO with unbuffered RAM would likely be best suited for running 4gb of RAM assuming you want to buy a desktop MOBO and not a server MOBO and registered memory. Something like the P4C800E Deluxe might be a good choice. Based on what you already have, this is an awesome setup. However, it is not going to run 4 DIMMs well. :(: Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaramBa Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 well i guess that kinda solves it for me... no more 4 gigs... i think i'l just slave my old P4 and farm render if this one fails me... thanx alot man ur so much help! i appreciate it. well i just thought that this rig would be the best for this kinda work.. kinda read all i can but i still cant seem to get it perfectly right... even the processor thing (4200 X2 VS 4000+) is giving me a headache.. but thought of going with the 4000+ since its better at single threads, and most software still dont make use of dual core... so its pretty confusing:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Yeah, the software is still way behind CPU/MOBO technology. We could have all been building duallies for years if the software for desktop usage and games were multi-threaded. And, Intel Hyper Threading systems would be better gamers if games were multi-threaded too. For now, IMO, dual core is advertising except for a small portion of the world that can "really" make use of it. But, you still have an awesome rig and I'm guessing that you will still be very pleased. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaramBa Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Thanx, thats good to hear, kinda hoping this will work well for me. well at least i found a reliable source of info :!: so i guess thats it... i'm buying it tom. just got to find a case and we're good to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 A top of the line rig like yours deserves a good case. Personally, I like the Coolermaster CM Stacker. It's huge but gives awesome airflow, excellent quality, and plenty of room for cooling, cables, etc. Great cases to add water cooling to. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaramBa Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 WOW! never saw that one before... its kinda off budget but is tempting! i like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobler Posted December 1, 2005 Share Posted December 1, 2005 Hiya! well the question is already asked but i kinda want a specific answer since i'm supernew to this technical hardware stuff.... i work on Maya (3d application) and Zbrush, they're super RAM hungry. So I'mgetting the Asus A8N32-SLI Deluxe MB with the AMD 4400+ X2 CPU, all that is left is the RAM, so i read it takes DDR 500 which is supposedly better for me.. but i read low latency problems, i cant honestly risk overclocking experiments since i cant afford to get new ones...fresh grad here! so if there are any1 that already tried it and it works plz tel me... and then i have the twin vs single problem... so i wanted to ask i any1 can be kind eonough to help me out here... gonna get 2gigs or maybe 4 if all works well... so any suggestions... thanx alot ppl! :bigeyes: I was searching for some answers myself on exactly the same lines as yourself with some questions answered THANKS!. I also have a couple of answers to your queries.ASUS have built a new bios which should sort out the 4gb memeory issue but they won't authorise 16 x 128modules ie 2gb sticks in one slot or basically ram with chips on both sides of the memerysticks.DUAL CORE is the way to go for 3D ANIMATION as the prog's such as Maya etc will take an advantage of this when it comes to render times as much as 30-40% faster work that out over a full length animation.you will get simmilar performance as the amd mpx dual processors you must use XP PRO .Iwould not go for the 64bit version yet as driver support for peripherals is still poor as you can't mix 32 & 64 bit drivers. hope this helps some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaramBa Posted December 2, 2005 Share Posted December 2, 2005 Hey thanx man... altho it kinda shook my confidence about the dual core thing... cuz reviews are killers.. the make u even more hesitant, first it was intel, then amd processors, dual then single then back again to dual's. pretty confusing, trying to get the most out of my money, but its pretty hard... so since you obviously know about this... tel me more.. for such applications... what do u think is the best to take? i mean forget my current rig and if u can advise me about better specs or maybe more compatible ones... plz do! sorry for the nags, but i guess i must make use of good help.. thanx! KaramBa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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