SuperMoose Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 OK guys i need your technical assistance. After a long run around with my original motherboard not working, getting a replacement shipped, then finding out the processor wasnt working and getting it replaced i finally have all the components. Today i seated the processor, installed the heatsink, and tried to boot it as everything else was installed in anticipation of the processor. The system did nothing. I took out everything except the processor, and recieved a voice post of system memory failed, which is good beacuse that is expected. I reinstalled the video card and nothing showed up on the monitor. I did not have the keyboard or mouse plugged in. My question is what the hell is wrong now, there was no power going to the cd drives or the hard drives, and all that was plugged into the motherboard was the processor, memory, and video card. System specs AMD athlon 3800+ venice asus a8n-SLI deluxe corsair twinx1024-3200cpt asus extreme AX850PRO video card sound blaster audigy two platinum sound card 2 dvd drives and two western digital hard drives please help as i have been trying to get this thing to work for damn near two months and its getting quite disheartening as i have never had this much trouble building a computer and getting it to function. Thank you SuperMoose The guys at asus said it may be the memory, but is there anything else i can try before i go buy more memory to test this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted October 24, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted October 24, 2005 Please try the modules one at a time, and clear or reset the bios with the CLRTC jumper and see if it will post. If it still will not post I would try the module in slot A2 and see if it will post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMoose Posted October 24, 2005 Author Share Posted October 24, 2005 already tried that and still doesnt work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted October 24, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted October 24, 2005 Will not post with either module one at a time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMoose Posted October 24, 2005 Author Share Posted October 24, 2005 correct, i have done just the cpu and it will post system memory failure, now when i install one or both of the memory sticks it posts nothing, not even that it is missing the video card. I have tried the video card in both pci express slots and still get nothing, i am in the process of looking for another video card to test it with, but is there anything else it could be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted October 24, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted October 24, 2005 I would test the modules in another system to be sure. And yes there might be some kind a short, I would remove the MB from the case and just build it on the box it came in and test. Also you might have a bad PSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMoose Posted October 24, 2005 Author Share Posted October 24, 2005 my other cpu was bad i just got this one today, so im hoping its not the psu other wise im gonna go nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garvin Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Antec doesn't list a Smartpower 5.0, did you mean a Smartpower 2.0 sp500 supply? If it is this supply and there was a short it may have tripped the overvoltage protection. To reset the supply turn it off and unplug it and wait for an hour or so. Is the supply set for 115volts not 230volts? Other possibilities: Is the ez selector card set for single video card mode and all the way down ( should snap down)? Is the ez-plug on the motherboard powered? Is the cpu fan plugged all the way in to the cpu fan connector on the motherboard. Is a ps2 keyboard and mouse plugged in to the appropriate back plate header connector? Additionally with my deluxe board, the motherboard manual illustration for the pin leads to hook up the case switches and L.E.D.'s was wrong; it's short two pins from what's actually on the motherboard. You have to follow the color coded description under the diagram to correctly install the leads or the system will start to boot and fail, as it did in my case. The pin leads are color coded faintly, needed a flashlight to see them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMoose Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 ill look into the leds for the case, although i doubt it is it, but with my luck it may be, yes i meant the 2.0 not 5.0 its 500 watts though, and its plugged into the mobo in 3 different places, the card selector is set to single and is firmly installed. The cpu fan is also secure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 and its plugged into the mobo in 3 different places, the card selector is set to single and is firmly installed. What 3 places are you plugged into? Offhand, I can only think of 2 places that you should have plugged into the MOBO (ATX plug and 4 pin CPU plug) unless you are talking about the 3rd plug being the PSU fan lead. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMoose Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 there is a place by the first videocard slot that is a molex connector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMoose Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 ok i have built it ontop of the box the motherboard came with and now it is doing absolutely nothing, no posts at all, even with just the cpu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I forgot about the EZ Plug. According to the manual, you don't use the EZ Plug with a single video card. Try removing the EZ Plug. Also, if your video card has its own molex connector, make sure that it is the only device on that string. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMoose Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 mike i rebuilt it ontop of the box and now it isnt posting anything at all, i put it back in teh case with just the cpu and heatsink and it still posts nothing...i have no idea what to do now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted October 25, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted October 25, 2005 What slot or slots do you have the modules in? I would try with just one module in slots 2 AKA A2 and see if it will post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMoose Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 ive tried the ram in every slot possible, and even without the ram it wont post system memory failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted October 25, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted October 25, 2005 Can a friend maybe help you test the modules in another system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 mike i rebuilt it ontop of the box and now it isnt posting anything at all, i put it back in teh case with just the cpu and heatsink and it still posts nothing...i have no idea what to do now. Push the computer to the side for a little while and go to a bar and drink heavily. :sigh!: Just kidding. Do you know anyone at all with a system that will run DDR400 RAM? And, describe how you cleared the CLRTC jumper. Not to be insulting but, some people get this wrong and don't actually clear the CMOS. Also, since you have the system out of the case tell me specifically how you are attempting to start the system. Do you have the switch from your case connected or are you using a jumper? And, are you now trying it out of the case with ONLY CPU, RAM, and video card? Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMoose Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 im at school and i dont know anyone who has a system similiar. I place teh mobo ontop of the box it came in, with the cpu and heatsink installed and plugged in, i connected the power supply in two places, and turned it on using the case connection. It doesnt post anything so there is no point in putting in the video card as it doesnt even post system memory failure, and as far as drinking heavily i dont drink so =/. This is just upsetting me because it is the second motherboard, second processor, and now it seems like the memory and possibly video card are bad if not the motherboard again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMoose Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 im at school and i dont know anyone who has a system similiar. I place teh mobo ontop of the box it came in, with the cpu and heatsink installed and plugged in, i connected the power supply in two places, and turned it on using the case connection. It doesnt post anything so there is no point in putting in the video card as it doesnt even post system memory failure, and as far as drinking heavily i dont drink so =/. This is just upsetting me because it is the second motherboard, second processor, and now it seems like the memory and possibly video card are bad if not the motherboard again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Explain to me how you are clearing CMOS. Also, how are you attempting to power on the system when it is out of the case. Try it with the video card, CPU, and 1 stick of memory in the A2 slot. Not drinking saves money so no harm there. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMoose Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 to clear the cmos i take out the battery move the jumper over for 5~10 seconds then move it back and reinsert the battery, i hooked up the power button to the mobo for when it is out of the case, and it wasnt working with the video card, memory, and cpu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Also, on your RMAs, did you RMA to AMD and to ASUS respectively or did you RMA to your vendor? If it was a vendor, what vendor was it and are you 100% CERTAIN they replaced your gear or, did they just send the same stuff back to you. And, after your last bios clearing, did you put the jumper cap back over pins 1+2? If you have a defective component in the setup you have now, it sounds like it may be the PSU. I seriously doubt that you got a bad CPU, MOBO, and RAM all at the same time. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 No need to remove the battery, that is why you move the jumper to pins 2-3. Remove the power cord from PSU, put jumper to pins 2-3, press power switch to dishcarge any residual power in PSU, leave for 15+ seconds. Then, put jumper cap to pins 1-2, put power cord back in, and try to boot. FWIW, since you are troubleshooting, I'd suggest leaving the system outside the case for now till you find the problem. To start the system out of the case, you can use a jumper cap like the one for CLRTC or HD jumper. Just briefly cap it over the 2 pins you connect the case PSU pins to and the system will start assuming all is well. If this does not work I am down to 3 suggestions. 1. Find another person or a reputable computer shop to assist you. One possibility is that you have a bios on your MOBO that is older than your CPU. If so, the system will not boot as it does not recognize the CPU microcode. 2. Pull the ATX plug out of your MOBO. To test the PSU, http://www.gideontech.com/content/articles/196/1 3. Take up drinking and buy a Dell. Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMoose Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 both rmas were from the companies as newegg wont deal with that stuff, both sent me new things and amd sent me an upgraded processor as they did not have the one i originally had in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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