help! Have Issue With ICUE i150 Capellix with 13900k

[c-attack]

Take a look at the guide below.  There is a LOT of information in there, but the part to try is what he describes in the beginning about setting a fixed LLC level and specific AC/DC load line values.  It's in the part where the title says "Taming the Beast".  The auto settings, especially after all these "Intel fixes" makes the VRM load line do some odd things and even before it uses more power than it really needs to for moderate loads like gaming.  This can take as much as 30W off the top end and get you out of the steep part of the voltage curve where temps really scale vertically.  

 

The guide was written before all the Intel stuff, but it's main purpose is trim the excess off from stock conditions.  So all you really need to do here is set:

VRM Load Line Calibration to 4

DC_LL you can leave on auto

AC_LL to 0.20 to start.  Then you have to test to see if its too much or too little.  The testing will take you an afternoon at some point, but even just at LLC 4 and 0.20 you should see a reduction from Intel defaults.  

https://www.overclock.net/threads/asus-maximus-z790-extreme-and-intel-i9-13900k-a-tuning-guide-for-beginners.1801569/

[Samyar]

On 8/28/2024 at 3:02 PM, c-attack said:

Take a look at the guide below.  There is a LOT of information in there, but the part to try is what he describes in the beginning about setting a fixed LLC level and specific AC/DC load line values.  It's in the part where the title says "Taming the Beast".  The auto settings, especially after all these "Intel fixes" makes the VRM load line do some odd things and even before it uses more power than it really needs to for moderate loads like gaming.  This can take as much as 30W off the top end and get you out of the steep part of the voltage curve where temps really scale vertically.  

 

The guide was written before all the Intel stuff, but it's main purpose is trim the excess off from stock conditions.  So all you really need to do here is set:

VRM Load Line Calibration to 4

DC_LL you can leave on auto

AC_LL to 0.20 to start.  Then you have to test to see if its too much or too little.  The testing will take you an afternoon at some point, but even just at LLC 4 and 0.20 you should see a reduction from Intel defaults.  

https://www.overclock.net/threads/asus-maximus-z790-extreme-and-intel-i9-13900k-a-tuning-guide-for-beginners.1801569/

this thing really advanced is it overclock?

[c-attack]

No, it’s not an overclock. The initial section helps you find trained VRM/voltage settings so the cpu can run stock clocks without the extra voltage. It can easily take 10C off the top end. In effect, it more like an under volt except you’re manipulating the VRM load line rather than the voltage directly. You only need to do the first section. The overlocking stuff is further down and not necessary. 

[Samyar]

11 hours ago, c-attack said:

No, it’s not an overclock. The initial section helps you find trained VRM/voltage settings so the cpu can run stock clocks without the extra voltage. It can easily take 10C off the top end. In effect, it more like an under volt except you’re manipulating the VRM load line rather than the voltage directly. You only need to do the first section. The overlocking stuff is further down and not necessary. 

Oh Do you mean the part where he says to change LLC, DCLL, and ACLL?
is that safe to change them? or if i doing something wrong it will damage something
because i dont have any idea about this settings

[c-attack]

Correct. It’s less complex than it seems. 
 

1) set the Load Line VRM level to 4

2) Leave the DC LL on auto. It can be fine tuned to match the VID later but not required. 
3) Set the AC LL to 0.20. This is the typical “average” but cpu dependent. Then you load up and use something Cinebench R23 or R24 to test for stability. If the AC is too low, it will end the test with an error. Then you go up 0.02 and try again. If you pass, you lower by 0.05 and run again looking for the point where you fail. You need a pretty special silicon sample to get under 0.10, so that should happen after run 1 or 2. Then go back up +0.02 and find a AC LL pass level. 
 

Using a fixed VRM and specified AC levels should keep it from doing those large low LLC voltage swings. Something like Cinebench R23 will run in the 90s out of the box. When trained it can be more like 80. 

[Samyar]

On 9/1/2024 at 3:40 PM, c-attack said:

Correct. It’s less complex than it seems. 
 

1) set the Load Line VRM level to 4

2) Leave the DC LL on auto. It can be fine tuned to match the VID later but not required. 
3) Set the AC LL to 0.20. This is the typical “average” but cpu dependent. Then you load up and use something Cinebench R23 or R24 to test for stability. If the AC is too low, it will end the test with an error. Then you go up 0.02 and try again. If you pass, you lower by 0.05 and run again looking for the point where you fail. You need a pretty special silicon sample to get under 0.10, so that should happen after run 1 or 2. Then go back up +0.02 and find a AC LL pass level. 
 

Using a fixed VRM and specified AC levels should keep it from doing those large low LLC voltage swings. Something like Cinebench R23 will run in the 90s out of the box. When trained it can be more like 80. 

ok i will try it.

thanks for your all help And the time you took to answer me ❤️