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So I Think the title would make it sound simple ...


Just a bit of backstory here
So Over A year Ago I Had a power issue that destroyed my old system 
A lot of stuff I could replaced but my Insurance did not cover componenten that were still use able Like ... the case
And the case is still goed but it's starting to show its age ... specially since dragged around and having parts taken out and in again have made some parts of it go bad and they should be replaced but at the same time it might be cheaper to get a new case

However looking for a case that would fit my current hardware seems a bit of a challenge 
So I am willing to let some of the hardware out (Like the 5.25" Optical Blu-Ray Burner) however I would prefer to put most stuff inside A new case

So Where to start ... Here is most of the relevant hardware that needs to go in:

  • Asus Maximus XIII Extreme 
  • 5 x 3.5" HDD Drives 
  • XSPC RX480
  • XSPC EX280
  • EKWB Revo Dual D5 PWM Serial
  • Bitspower Water Tank Z-Multi 250
  • A Lot of Noctua Chromax Fans (120mm and 140mm mostly)

Now I was already looking and could only find one case from Corsair that could fit these but That one has Glass on al sides and I don't really like that and also the the price is a bit to much in my opinion

So I would Like to see your opinion on it and what recommendations you might have for me

Also Note that I really liked the 7000D ... But that would not fit all the hardware I currently have

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Almost forgot

the PSU is a Corsair AX1200i

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I think you've already seen the limiting factor is the 480mm radiator and there are only two Corsair cases that can fit one -- the 1000D or one of the 7000 series.  Those cases are about as big as they come, so if neither is for you'll need to compromise or on the radiators or consolidate drives to open up more options.  

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On 4/23/2022 at 11:33 PM, c-attack said:

I think you've already seen the limiting factor is the 480mm radiator and there are only two Corsair cases that can fit one -- the 1000D or one of the 7000 series.  Those cases are about as big as they come, so if neither is for you'll need to compromise or on the radiators or consolidate drives to open up more options.  

Yeah but that's the whole point 
The 1000D is basically my only option but I don't like that all sides are covered by glass and that the price is also very high
The 7000D Airflow is the closest thing to what I am looking for but the problem with that one is that the combination of both 480mm Radiator and AX1200i PSU would make it that there is no space for the 3.5" Bays ... I don't mind Going with Less 3.5" drives since these available in capacities over 20TB  however having to go with 2.5" would result in having only options up to 5 TB HDD's and 8 TB SSD's 
it's just a disappointment that he 7000 series don't have more Length so that you would at least be able to leave one of the bays in 
But if it had more Length it would have probably fitted A 480mm Radiator in the Top and in that it might even be possible to do 140mm sizing for the side as there would be space for it than (in my case that would make a nice spot for my Pomp)
Also A point with the 7000 series is that when looking for E-ATX / SSI-EEB supporting cases on corsair's website it does not get listed 
if the case had more Length it might be able to have support for these type of boards 

My Current case is 650mm x 600mm x 250mm (H x L x W) and the one I had before that was 609mm x 609mm x 229mm (H x L x W) And the last one was a Corsair case 
So I am used to pretty big cases, but the 7000 series is smaller than What I am used to ...
If Only Corsair made a case that was in between the 7000 series and the Obsidian 1000D 

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once you go with 140mm wide rads, you basically cross 95% of the available cases off the list ^^'

I was looking at my O11XL and it would have worked probably.

With 140mm fans and some HDD support, maybe something like the Thermaltake  Level 20XT could work. It's sad Corsair left the dual chamber design style after the 680x because when you have a busy build, it's actually more compact than a super-tall traditional tower.

A beefy, scaled up 680x with more rad support, no front glass, and the build quality of a 7000D instead of that flimsy wobbly case we had would sell like hot cakes..

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Yeah ... 
Seems like there are not a lot of company's that care About Quad Radiators 
but the thing is that 360mm AIO's have been around for some time and even 420mm AIO's are out for a while
So in a few more years we would be 480mm and even 560mm AIO's 
So corsair would be smart to start making cases that support those since it would future proof there cases 
The lifespan of there Flagship cases is around the 4 to 5 years so we will see a New Obsidian Line case this or next year to replace the 1000D
(Hell if those get a lot more affordable by that time I might actually get one)
and I would expect that new case to have at least the capability of supporting up to 4 x 560mm Radiators at a minimum 
since it needs to exceed the 1000D's status as a successor to it in my opinion 

The O11XL is A nice case but the issue with that one is that despite the name suggesting A lot bigger case it isn't that much bigger 
Since it has no support for 480mm Radiators it's also not a suitable replacement for me 

The 680x Looks like a Nice case and lot of support in the back For HDD's ,SSD's and other stuff it would not be bad if they make A larger version of that would not be a bad Idea but than I hope they are smart and also offer a A "D Airflow" version of it

As for that other case ... Let me just say that I do not like Company's that rip people off 
They stole case designs from Caselabs and then filed a lawsuit against them for ripping of the design they copied from them
They threaten Phanteks for using the Name "Luxe 2" Because it sounds like the name of there Daughter company
And they stole the designs of the NF-A12x25 and got away with it (In my opinion Noctua should have just Burned that company to the Ground)
I am pretty sure that people would think twice if they knew how Scummy this company actually is

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Who knows, maybe the current and upcoming GPUs will bring some focus to watercooling for the new cases we'll see appearing in the market in a few years.

AIOs get bigger, GPU with AIOs are starting to be a more common thing too..

As for quad rads, it may be beneficial for dual rigs, or SLI, but as of today, beefy double, or triple rads cope very well with the components that are out there.

It's hard to justify for big companies to invest in a completely new case for niche applications that will sell very little volumes. The price of the 1000D is an example of it. It can be done, but not cheaply.

Talking of niche solutions, another option, (that i'd love to work on whenever i'll need more cooling), is externally mounted rads.

Imagine a normal case (with as many HDD trays as you like) with two tubes going out to one, or a couple of Mo-Ra3 or alphacool Nova radiators.

It requires a bit of work for the radiator setup, but it saves you working with a massive case, and you can even change it pretty easily if needed since case cooling is not even a concern.

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16 hours ago, LeDoyen said:

Who knows, maybe the current and upcoming GPUs will bring some focus to watercooling for the new cases we'll see appearing in the market in a few years.

AIOs get bigger, GPU with AIOs are starting to be a more common thing too..

As for quad rads, it may be beneficial for dual rigs, or SLI, but as of today, beefy double, or triple rads cope very well with the components that are out there.

It's hard to justify for big companies to invest in a completely new case for niche applications that will sell very little volumes. The price of the 1000D is an example of it. It can be done, but not cheaply.

Talking of niche solutions, another option, (that i'd love to work on whenever i'll need more cooling), is externally mounted rads.

Imagine a normal case (with as many HDD trays as you like) with two tubes going out to one, or a couple of Mo-Ra3 or alphacool Nova radiators.

It requires a bit of work for the radiator setup, but it saves you working with a massive case, and you can even change it pretty easily if needed since case cooling is not even a concern.

Yeah but the biggest benefit of having larger Radiators is the reduction in noise (More fans at lower RPM)

Cases used to be made to support external solutions and I have seen some videos on it (the room watercooling one from Linus was pretty insane)
But the downside is that external solutions for this can be pretty expensive and than the 1000D would be a cheaper solution 
And not to forget that you are basically splitting your system in 2 cases and moving one big case aint so bad but as having to move 2 cases together

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not 2 cases ^^

in my case, i'm thinking to mount the radiator to the side of my desk, or even under the floor (it's on a mezzanine, cold air downstairs :p) and just have a pair of soft tubing linking them to the PC. When i want to move the computer or work on it, i just use quickconnects and done. Changing build or case? quickconnects.. only have to deal with waterblocks mounting. It's actually more simple once it's in place. Hell you could even use a SFF case if you have remote cooling.

I've seen Linus video when it came out, he went a bit too far as usual lol but the principle is pretty good, it was just massively impractical the way he did it.

There's space constraints of course.. where to put those huge rads, but fitting a 1000D in a room can also be a challenge. Lifting it to the desk to work on it most certainly is lol

Either way, it's custom loop, so, anything goes.

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Hm ... I came across some interesting pictures of the 7000D on a review from techpowerup on the case

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From the looks of it it seems like there is a 3rd mounting Position for one of the HDD Cages
however I can not find anything on if this actually is a spot where one cage could be mounted 
So is there anybody who can confirm this (The middle spot of where both the cages are mounted by default)

if this is indeed a spot for it than it might actually be possible to get 3 HDD's 
and the only issue then would be if the default Cover in the front has enough space for the radiator I have 
I know there is a gap in the front part of that but nowhere does it specifies what the size of this gap is 
I am pretty sure A Slim Radiator would not be an issue there but I am not sure if my XSPC RX480 would fit
So if somebody can provide the space between the fan bracket and that cover than I would know if its possible

The only other problem I might run into is getting used to the smaller size of the case 
Since its also Smaller than the Obsidian 800D that I used to have before my current case

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Well since nobody seems to care to provide Info 
I have been looking for more images and it seems like I found one that shows One of the HDD cages mounted in the middle spot

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However still looking for how much space that leaves for the Radiator + Fans And the PSU in this setup (Just to be sure the PSU fits)

I have also been looking at some other cases Like the Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 / Luxe 2 (719) but I don't like that the storage than has to go in the front 
The Enthoo Elite is A good one but ... The Corsair 1000D is half the price ... and that I already considered a bit to expensive
And also note wile Phanteks Makes nice cases my Current experience is that there are a lot of thing that get damaged quite easy and break over time
As My Current Case is A Phanteks Enthoo Primo And I know what parts have already been replaced and I can tell you that it's a lot more than I had to replace on the Obsidian 800D That I used to have (I actually upgraded it to have USB 3 and Sata 3 and had to replace the door once)

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