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H150i - 3xML+ 3xLL120 (push/pull), 4xQL120 and icue 7000X RGB with 4x140S (wiring / connecting everything)


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Hey, I'm getting a new PC and I want to make it look nice ( I am new to RGB so my knowledge is very limited, I'm still learning about it)

So I will use icue 7000X RGB case with 4x140SP included (3 in front and 1 rear)

For CPU cooling I will use iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler that comes with 3x ML fans and I will add to that 3x LL on top to make it look good from above of PC)

Next to the front (on the side) I want to install 4x120QL

And to that I want to add 2x icue lighting node pro rgb mounted on the case

That gives me 14 fans in total, I will have Commander Core from H150i, Commander Core XT from PC Case, 2x iCUE Lighting Node CORE from fan packs 

Will there be any problem with mixing those fans together? Do I need to get another commander for this or replace something because it will be not right? And how many PWM Fan Splitter Cables do I need to plug in motherboard? Same for USB on motherboard?

I'm sorry for the chaos, I'm lost in this and I'm still looking things up, if anyone can help me I would be really happy

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If you want to install a pull/push system with the h150i, the same fans should be installed on both sides of the radiator.

So that you achieve an even flow of air and do not experience any surprises.

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3 hours ago, muvo said:

If you want to install a pull/push system with the h150i, the same fans should be installed on both sides of the radiator.

So that you achieve an even flow of air and do not experience any surprises.

Alright, thank you I will take note on that.

Anyone can also advice on connecting fans, do I need to get commander pro for that or what I have is enough?

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Your Commander Core is busy with the 6 pull/push fans. The Commander XT can carry another 6 fans. You are also missing 2 fans.

There are 2 variants for this: an additional commander xt or with the pwm hub of the 7000X and a node core.

 

Depending on the board, you need an active usb hub (preferably a 4-fold one)

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You are limited to 6 RGB connections per controller.  Each controller will act like a separate lighting group and fire in sequential order (1->6) for those that use that type of lighting.  That makes those extra 3 fans on the top of the radiator more difficult to add.  They will need another lighting controller which you have (LNCore), but there is also a question of how to integrate them into the system.  LL fans are ring based and not like your other ML/SP-Elite fans with 8 center mounted hubs.  There is also a question of the value of the ring since it will be face down on a top exhaust directional flow.  If you are set on this, you might consider adding 3 more ML-Elite or SP-Elite fans that are of the same lighting design and tone.  This gives you more flexibility in your pairings and also provides an instant replacement option if something happens to any other fan in the system.  

 

PWM control is less of an issue.  You can include fans 13 and 14 by using any standard PWM splitter.  Stick to 2 way splitters and avoid triples.  They tend to be inconsistent on Corsair controllers and also move you a lot closer to the current limit on some controllers.  

 

You do not need a Commander Pro for this build since you have two others already. Also, we are starting to see users have issues on the USB path when combining more than two Commanders on the same USB path.  

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Thanks! I'm thinking to replace all fans to QQ or LL so the effect will be better (QQ will be probably my choice). About connecting, thank you for splitter idea (2 way and avoiding 3 ones) and I'm happy that you can confirm that what I will have from case and cooling is enough ( I don't need extra commander pro), I'm sorry for late reply I'm so busy right now. I will rethink the whole thing and post soon how I see it (final thing with mobo so I will know how many usb, fans connections I have on it), if you can also check it in the future that would be great!

 

Once again, thank you c-attack and muvo!

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On 1/14/2022 at 5:48 PM, c-attack said:

You are limited to 6 RGB connections per controller.  Each controller will act like a separate lighting group and fire in sequential order (1->6) for those that use that type of lighting.  That makes those extra 3 fans on the top of the radiator more difficult to add.  They will need another lighting controller which you have (LNCore), but there is also a question of how to integrate them into the system.  LL fans are ring based and not like your other ML/SP-Elite fans with 8 center mounted hubs.  There is also a question of the value of the ring since it will be face down on a top exhaust directional flow.  If you are set on this, you might consider adding 3 more ML-Elite or SP-Elite fans that are of the same lighting design and tone.  This gives you more flexibility in your pairings and also provides an instant replacement option if something happens to any other fan in the system.  

 

PWM control is less of an issue.  You can include fans 13 and 14 by using any standard PWM splitter.  Stick to 2 way splitters and avoid triples.  They tend to be inconsistent on Corsair controllers and also move you a lot closer to the current limit on some controllers.  

 

You do not need a Commander Pro for this build since you have two others already. Also, we are starting to see users have issues on the USB path when combining more than two Commanders on the same USB path.  

Hey, so I am replacing all fans with QL120 with adding 1 more on the front (since I remove 140 SP for 120 QL I will have a space for one more), it will be 15 fans total.

I will connect 6xQL120 on the H150i (push/pull) with Commander Core, that will go to USB 2.0 motherboard header and sata power from PSU.

Next 6xQL120 will be connected to Commander Core XT, this will also go to USB 2.0 motherboard header and sata power from PSU.

The last 3xQL120 will be connected to Lighting Node Core for RGB (from fan packs) and this LNC will be connected to USB Pass-Through to Commander Core XT and to sata power from PSU. Also those 3xQL will be connected to Commander Core XT for power (I will use 3 fan splitter cables 1 to 2).

I have to connect also 8 CORSAIR RGB LED light strips so I will do that through Lighting Node Pro and lead it to USB 2.0 header on motherboard as well and sata power from PSU.

So the best way I think of is that I will need to connect 3x USB 2.0 to my internal motherboard header. I'm still looking for good motherboard, what I see - most of them have only 2x USB 2.0 motherboard headers, I will need some kind of extension for internal USB on motherboard so I can plug in everything, I hope it will work without problem? Like having installed this 1 to 2 USB 2.0 on motherboard will not be a problem for iCUE software?

 

 

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You only need 1 more PWM splitter for the 15th fan or now that you are getting into really large numbers, you also have the option of offloading some of those fans to the PWM repeater in the back of the case.  That is in effect a 6 way powered splitter.  It uses 1 PWM header from either Commander for speed control, then all fans on that line will run the same speed.  That could be used to control your entire push-pull array from one header and free up 5 Commander PWM ports other fans.  It can also be used for any random group of three fans on the front or side panel.  

 

There are no motherboards with 3 x 2.0 headers anymore.  That space and lanes will be assigned to USB 3, C or something else.  Anyone doing a large case is going to need a powered USB 2 hub.  These are inexpensive ($20 USD) and often required for any recent AMD board.  Makes more sense to choose your MB for other features, not number of USB 2 ports.  

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1 hour ago, c-attack said:

You only need 1 more PWM splitter for the 15th fan or now that you are getting into really large numbers, you also have the option of offloading some of those fans to the PWM repeater in the back of the case.  That is in effect a 6 way powered splitter.  It uses 1 PWM header from either Commander for speed control, then all fans on that line will run the same speed.  That could be used to control your entire push-pull array from one header and free up 5 Commander PWM ports other fans.  It can also be used for any random group of three fans on the front or side panel.  

 

There are no motherboards with 3 x 2.0 headers anymore.  That space and lanes will be assigned to USB 3, C or something else.  Anyone doing a large case is going to need a powered USB 2 hub.  These are inexpensive ($20 USD) and often required for any recent AMD board.  Makes more sense to choose your MB for other features, not number of USB 2 ports.  

Thank you for answering!

Do you mean PWM repeater that comes included with case ( 7000X RGB)? I wasn't sure how it works but now it makes sense.

So I could use that PWN repeater to control whole push-pull array (power 6 fans) and just connect it with Commander Core ( I will have 6 slots for RGB used and just 1 used for PWN - and have all push-pull done - powering and RGB), what cable do I need to connect PWN repeater and Commander Core? Do I need to order it separately and I believe it is sata powered (PWN repeater)? With that combination I don't need to order 3 fan splitter cables, sounds good to me.

And about motherboard, thank you for that info! And I'm sorry but my english is not that good, I don't understand the sentence about "that space and lanes will be assigned to USB 3, C or something else", what do you mean by that? Sorry again. That case 7000X RGB have front USB 3.1 type C - I still think how to make it work because also alot MB don't have support for that, is there any extension that I can connect it with interior MB slot? To make it run that USB 3.1 type C port in front? Would be good to have it working ( sorry for putting this here)

And yes I will get powered USB 2 hub and connect it to interior USB2.0 on motherboard, I will focus on better MB features, that's great to know! Thank you 🙂

 

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5 minutes ago, AkGoD said:

about "that space and lanes will be assigned to USB 3, C or something else", what do you mean by that?

You can’t put 4x usb 2, 3x usb 3, 3x USB-C, PCI-E 4.0/5.0, 3x M.2 drives all on the same board and chipset. There are limits. Most motherboard manufacturers are quick to implement new technologies and will replace the older ones with the new. Nobody is going to put 3-4 usb 2 internal ports on a motherboard these days. 
 

There should be what looks like a typical fan cable in the kit that will connect from the PWM repeater circuit board to the Commander PWM header (or any other). If for whatever reason it’s not there, any fan extension cable should work. 

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2 hours ago, c-attack said:

You can’t put 4x usb 2, 3x usb 3, 3x USB-C, PCI-E 4.0/5.0, 3x M.2 drives all on the same board and chipset. There are limits. Most motherboard manufacturers are quick to implement new technologies and will replace the older ones with the new. Nobody is going to put 3-4 usb 2 internal ports on a motherboard these days. 
 

There should be what looks like a typical fan cable in the kit that will connect from the PWM repeater circuit board to the Commander PWM header (or any other). If for whatever reason it’s not there, any fan extension cable should work. 

Alright, now I understand, thank you for explaining it to me :)!

And about cable, okay now I feel more confident about it and I will know what do to (I think).

Thank you for everything!

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