Linition Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Am I the only one who is just annoying by the kind of crapshow computer cases are in terms of cooling? PSUs that block intakes, GPUs that blow hot air back into the case and against all the other fans and top fans that compete against CPU fans. It's an absolute mess of trapped hot air. I got a beQuiet Silent Base and am looking to upgrade, but I see no great options, only slightly less bad options. I was happy to realize there's a fan mount and exhaust opening on a side panel that would make sense for an open air GPU such as mine, just to find out there is no room for a fan once you install a card that could actually benefit from it. I got a few ideas for improvements but they always require either hardware manufacturers to go from "cool my stuff, F everything else" to "integrate my cooling into an airflow loop", or at least heavy case modding, where I am looking hopefully towards Corsair. They got good cases no doubt, but more innovative companies are pulling ahead already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarity Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 I added a 2nd 92mm under the GPU to aid in exhausting the heat below the GPU. This might help help air cooled GPUs even more, granted you might need a 80mm as air coolers tend to be thicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linition Posted December 27, 2021 Author Share Posted December 27, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, solarity said: I added a 2nd 92mm under the GPU to aid in exhausting the heat below the GPU. This might help help air cooled GPUs even more, granted you might need a 80mm as air coolers tend to be thicker. Nice setup. In an air cooled setup this fan would steal cold air from the GPU fan though. I would love to go with a Corsair case so the 4000/5000D Airflow are both in the running, even the old beaut 780T in white, but I am not planning to OC my CPU or GPU, I think the clicking sounds of the pumps would bother me (ML fans saying hello ) so I was thinking Fractal Torrent. I wouldn't even get sleepless nights over the fan hub since I use a Corsair Commander anyway. Edited December 27, 2021 by Linition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocah Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I think part of the problem is legacy, part is the orientation of the cases, part is aesthetics, part is ( limited ) size and part is a lack on knowledge on the part of the builders. It simply isn't ( or shouldn't ) be necessary to have so many fans. Looks nice though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeDoyen Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 13 hours ago, Linition said: Nice setup. In an air cooled setup this fan would steal cold air from the GPU fan though. I would love to go with a Corsair case so the 4000/5000D Airflow are both in the running, even the old beaut 780T in white, but I am not planning to OC my CPU or GPU, I think the clicking sounds of the pumps would bother me (ML fans saying hello ) so I was thinking Fractal Torrent. I wouldn't even get sleepless nights over the fan hub since I use a Corsair Commander anyway. For the little GPU fan, with air cooling you'd want to flip it around to bring in fresh air under the GPU. For a completely aircooled setup the torrent has that "wind tunnel" effect that made the silverstone Raven so effective too. Air is not obstructed by the GPU and can exit at the back of the case, being fully meshed metal. Now, the 4 and 5000D airflow are also cooling beasts, so if i were you i'd watch Gamers nexus reviews of both and chose from there. @Pocah more fans is sometimes not necesary, but more fans = slower fans for the same cooling = silent build too 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarity Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) The front fans of something like a 5000/4000 series brings enough cool air to the GPU, the little fan exhausts the warm air out the back. Two intake facing each other would make the GPU warmer. Also intake on the rear would take in warm air exhausted from the PSU. For me I do have 6x fans on intake, so two with exhaust is a balanced approach for me. Someone did tests with it and I agree with the hypothesis: Edited December 28, 2021 by solarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeDoyen Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 When people use AIOs up top, often it's as intake to avoid heating the water with GPU heat. in that case, when reverse airflow is used (exhausting from the front) it can make sense to have a small inlet fan under the GPU. but in the classic airflow setup you're totally right 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solarity Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I always prefer AIO on top as exhaust as the GPU tends to be the limiting factor so I would rather keep the GPU cooler, so it can boost more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeDoyen Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Depending on your GPU it can get the AIO pretty hot and make quite a racket with fans picking up speed 😛 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linition Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 On 12/28/2021 at 12:25 PM, Pocah said: I think part of the problem is legacy, part is the orientation of the cases, part is aesthetics, part is ( limited ) size and part is a lack on knowledge on the part of the builders. It simply isn't ( or shouldn't ) be necessary to have so many fans. Looks nice though! Couldn't agree more. Everyone was basically doing their own thing in designing their hardware with some, but not enough concern for everything else in the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linition Posted January 1, 2022 Author Share Posted January 1, 2022 On 12/28/2021 at 4:21 PM, LeDoyen said: Depending on your GPU it can get the AIO pretty hot and make quite a racket with fans picking up speed 😛 Yes I don't want AIO unless maybe for my GPU, but there is too much risk and cost involved in that and there's still the issue of the annoying clicking pump sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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