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Hi All, I'm planning to buy H150i Capellix White (with included Commander Core and 3x120 ML fans) and also 5 LL RGB Fans for my case. With Commander Core i could power and RGB control up to 6 fans, but from I understand those have to be same type of fans. So, should I buy Commander Pro as well and connect my 5 LL fans to it (using RGB Fun Hub for RGB), while 3 ML fans would be connected to Commander Core? Will i be able to sync RGB effects of those 8 fans that way? Also, should I connect Commander Core to Comamnder Pro, or should those be connected directly to motherboard USB headers?

 

Thanks in advance.

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Hi All, I'm planning to buy H150i Capellix White (with included Commander Core and 3x120 ML fans) and also 5 LL RGB Fans for my case. With Commander Core i could power and RGB control up to 6 fans, but from I understand those have to be same type of fans. So, should I buy Commander Pro as well and connect my 5 LL fans to it (using RGB Fun Hub for RGB), while 3 ML fans would be connected to Commander Core? Will i be able to sync RGB effects of those 8 fans that way?

 

Hi Buddy.

 

Which case is this in? and are you going for Push/Pull?

 

Also, should I connect Commander Core to Comamnder Pro, or should those be connected directly to motherboard USB headers?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Either way would/should be fine buddy

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Hi Buddy.

 

Which case is this in? and are you going for Push/Pull?

 

It wont be Corsair case. I'm planning to use Fractal Design Meshify 2 with top mounted radiator with push (exhaust) configuration. I would prefer mounting it in front with push (intake) config, but I'm almost certain that tube length will not allow me to mount it with tubes at the bottom.

 

Either way would/should be fine buddy

 

I read about some issues with X570 motherboards when daisy chaining usb headers any idea if this is still the case?

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It wont be Corsair case. I'm planning to use Fractal Design Meshify 2 with top mounted radiator with push (exhaust) configuration. I would prefer mounting it in front with push (intake) config, but I'm almost certain that tube length will not allow me to mount it with tubes at the bottom.

 

imho.. tubes bottom is not the worry it has made out to be. one video of someone cutting apart a budget 2 year old and used aio as an example and claiming to have lost no fluid or introduced air into the system is not a great example.. what is a great example is the tens of thousands of people that have mounted tubes up and had Zero issues.. including my self.. i have fitted a lot,, i have helped people fit them a lot.. i have a busy discord server that has seen a few 1000 people go through it. maybe seen 1 or 2 die.. imho you are fine tubes up. i am mounted this way in my own AIO builds and have no concerns. my very first h50 is still rocking along tubes up in my mums case. (i am 51). your call buddy.

 

 

I read about some issues with X570 motherboards when daisy chaining usb headers any idea if this is still the case?

 

Not sure buddy.. at worst you put both on the Mobo headers or you grab one of those NZXT internal usb hubs..

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Thanks for the clarification regarding radiator placement Zotty. Still, do you know if connecting fans as described (5 x LL to Commander Pro with RGB Fan Hub and 3x ML to Commander Core) will allow me to sync fans effects across all 8 of them? Will buying another RGB Fan Hub and connecting 3 x ML to it and then to 2nd LED Port of Commander Pro be better?
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Sort of. The lighting link effects will automatically pass from one device to the next. However, there are only 2 sequential type effects (color wave and visor). If you want a custom wave to pass through the 5 LL and then to the 3 ML on another controller, you must program it to do so, with appropriate pauses on each end of the wave. This is tricky business and not something early users are going to be able to do immediately.

 

However, there is a secondary issue which may make the point moot. LL and ML fans are physically different in their LED geometry. As such, they are both not capable of all the same effects. You will see the LL have a longer list of presets the ML cannot do because it does not have LEDs in those places. What most people want to do it make something sequential like Pong or Gate run the length of their system. This is not possible even if you did have all LL or all QL fans, but it is most certainly impossible since the ML cannot do these effects at all.

 

For non-fan to fan effects, it won't matter if you use lighting link or set both controllers to do Spiral rainbow, rain, static color X, etc. The effect will be uniform on both, or as much as it can be with 8 LEDs vs 16 LEDs.

 

You MUST use the Commander Core for the Elite AIO, so I don't see an immediate benefit to moving the ML over to CH 2 on the Commander Pro. In terms of sequence for Lighting Link, the Commander will always go Ch1 -> Ch2, but then the two Commanders are going to be in sequence as well. If you were really being picky about the two sequential lighting link effects, you could swap their places (LL to Com Core, ML to RGB Lighting Hub/Commander Pro) and the order would reverse. In the short terms, it is probably more relevant to make sure you connect the fans in the order you want them to fire (1-2-3-4-5) and (1-2-3) relative to their case position.

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Corrected LED count for ML-Elite (vs ML)
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Sort of. The lighting link effects will automatically pass from one device to the next. However, there are only 2 sequential type effects (color wave and visor). If you want a custom wave to pass through the 5 LL and then to the 3 ML on another controller, you must program it to do so, with appropriate pauses on each end of the wave. This is tricky business and not something early users are going to be able to do immediately.

 

However, there is a secondary issue which may make the point moot. LL and ML fans are physically different in their LED geometry. As such, they are both not capable of all the same effects. You will see the LL have a longer list of presets the ML cannot do because it does not have LEDs in those places. What most people want to do it make something sequential like Pong or Gate run the length of their system. This is not possible even if you did have all LL or all QL fans, but it is most certainly impossible since the ML cannot do these effects at all.

 

For non-fan to fan effects, it won't matter if you use lighting link or set both controllers to do Spiral rainbow, rain, static color X, etc. The effect will be uniform on both, or as much as it can be with 4 LEDs vs 16 LEDs.

 

You MUST use the Commander Core for the Elite AIO, so I don't see an immediate benefit to moving the ML over to CH 2 on the Commander Pro. In terms of sequence for Lighting Link, the Commander will always go Ch1 -> Ch2, but then the two Commanders are going to be in sequence as well. If you were really being picky about the two sequential lighting link effects, you could swap their places (LL to Com Core, ML to RGB Lighting Hub/Commander Pro) and the order would reverse. In the short terms, it is probably more relevant to make sure you connect the fans in the order you want them to fire (1-2-3-4-5) and (1-2-3) relative to their case position.

 

Thank you very much for that in depth explanation. In that case does it make sense to swap 3 included ML Fans with 3 additional LL ones for better compatibility in terms of RGB sync? Or ML fans are that much better for being used on a radiator?

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I would give it a go with what you have now. Yes, the ML are better radiator fans, but whether or not that matters is another discussion. The ML-Elite with Capellix coolers are 8 LEDs and it would make sense to see if any of this even matters to you at all. You may be perfectly happy with 3 ML-E and 5 LL. Even if you swap them to LL, the above constraints remain. If you don't like how the ML-Elite look in comparison to the LL for general effects, then that is another matter but one you won't know until you get some time on the system. The ML Elite cost is in the AIO package, so no reason not to set things up as they are.
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