Pocah Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) I know and really like the ML PRO series of fans. I have loads of them. But I am about to buy a new Corsair cooler and I want to replace the fans. My question here is that I know the RGB ML PRO are ML PRO ( the hint is in the name! LOL! ) but there are some new fans I spy which are described as RGB Dual Light Loop. They seem to be based on the ML rather than the ML PRO, so I have no experience of those. Is this true? What are the ML like? Obviously they are same tech but are the ML PRO much better? And in what way? Edited September 4, 2020 by Pocah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-attack Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 The 'dual light loop' is the QL series. It is not related to the ML and is more sibling to the LL in terms of blade geometry and performance characteristics. The ML and ML Pro are identical other than the maximum RPM limit. True "ML Pro" (Black, twin pack, or LED) fans will max out at 2400 and 2000 rpm for the 120mm and 140mm models respectively. The ML-RGB, ML "Quiet" on the H115i/H150i Pro coolers max at 1600/1200 rpm for 120/140mm. This gets even more confusing as the Platinum series coolers come with a unique high speed version of the ML-RGB that has the higher speed limit of the non-RGB Pro. However, same blade, same bearings, same frame for all, so at 1000 rpm they all move the same amount of air. You only gain an advantage if you are willing to run the fans past that into the higher 1600+ rpm zone. The benefits of that at moderate watt loads are going to be very slight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocah Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) Oh that's good news then, thanks. Why are all the RGB LED fans slower than the non-led? UGH, yes, looking at the range it's really confusing. Edited September 4, 2020 by Pocah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-attack Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) Why are all the RGB LED fans slower than the non-led? Perhaps very early on there was concern about managing both high motor current and even higher lighting current. However, this is why most RGB fans now use separate power delivery for those two aspects. Most likely it comes down to sales and cost. These RGB fans are already pretty expensive. If you add in a more expensive motor, now you are pushing up the price that much more. Combine that with the middle of the market segment most products are aimed at and you are going to have a hard time finding 3000 rpm RGB fans. Most of the RGB fans out there fall into the middle range of speed (noise), the middle range of performance, but high on aesthetic value. That is probably the place to be from a sales revenue standpoint. I was surprised we never got that high speed version of the ML-Platinum fan as a retail product. Since it was already being manufactured, it seems like that would have been a good way to test the market appetite. Edited September 4, 2020 by c-attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee Corsair Mint Posted September 4, 2020 Corsair Employee Share Posted September 4, 2020 Oh that's good news then, thanks. Why are all the RGB LED fans slower than the non-led? UGH, yes, looking at the range it's really confusing. The ML fans are definitely a performance oriented fan and that's the target audience they're aimed more at then those looking for the most flashy, cool-looking lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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