CiDE Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 Hey! Put together an Asus A8N-E board with Athlon 64 3000+ Winchester + Venus12 jet engine cooler, VS1GBKIT400 2x512mb RAM, Chaintech PCIeX GF6600 256mb video, Audigy2 ZS Platinum sound, Antec True430PSU. Questions are, what are the timings for this RAM to work correctly? I get random app crashes, install crashes, bluescreens and reboots. This is VERY familiar as I have another P4C800 + 2.8GHz HT P4 system with the TwinX LL DDR400 that did the same thing before new BIOS and timings came out. Any help guys? Anyone runnin this combo!? THANKS, SERIOUSLY! Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted March 29, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted March 29, 2005 Please set the Dim Voltage to 2.7 Volts and test the modules one at a time with http://www.memtest.org. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiDE Posted March 29, 2005 Author Share Posted March 29, 2005 Got it, they both passed...now what? I tested them both in B1 slot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted March 29, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted March 29, 2005 Then test them in daul channel and see if they will pass. If you have problems try them in slots A2 and B2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiDE Posted March 29, 2005 Author Share Posted March 29, 2005 Do I have to do anything other than put them in A1 B1 or A2 B2 to activate dual channel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted March 29, 2005 Share Posted March 29, 2005 That's it. As long as it's in the right slots, the motherboard does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiDE Posted March 29, 2005 Author Share Posted March 29, 2005 Thanx Wired. Far as the Memtest86+, I went down to the guys house where I built the box and ran it myself. It failed, both sticks. We tried dual channel and the same thing happened. Something wrong with the RAM or is this common? BIOS is updated to latest 1001 release, voltage at 2.7V It runs slower than a 300mhz machine right now and corrupts Windows SP2 and all zip files we download. Clock speed reads right in the BIOS though, AMD Athlon 64 3000+ chip detected. Any ideas anyone? Thanks you for your input!!! Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted March 29, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted March 29, 2005 Jason, You stated previously that the modules passed when testing them one up. And the latest bios is Ver 1.003 Beta 3. I would update to this bios and load setup defaults and test the modules again or maybe test them in another system if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiDE Posted March 30, 2005 Author Share Posted March 30, 2005 Jason, You stated previously that the modules passed when testing them one up. And the latest bios is Ver 1.003 Beta 3. I would update to this bios and load setup defaults and test the modules again or maybe test them in another system if you can. Just updated to 1003.003 beta, ran Memtest once on each stick, once dual chan. Same thing, test 7 has a ton of errors. 2.7V. Any specific timings I should be using? Thanks for replying so quickly. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted March 30, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted March 30, 2005 Do you get errors when you test them one at a time? If not that would suggest some other problem. Can you tell me the complete system spec? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiDE Posted March 30, 2005 Author Share Posted March 30, 2005 Do you get errors when you test them one at a time? If not that would suggest some other problem. Can you tell me the complete system spec? We are always getting the test 7 errors weather its dual channel tests, or a single 512mb stick in the slot. We tested both too, individually. System is ASUS A8N-E with BIOS 1001.003beta, DDR voltage 2.7v AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Winchester core Value Select matched pair of 512mb modules = 1GB total memory, most popular reccomendation from Corsair's website. Also listed as compadible, but no memory timings are listed like the LL modules. RAM is in slots A1 and B1, and we have tried alternating them to A2 and B2 for dual channel tests. Thermaltake Venus12 CPU Cooler Chaintech nVidia GeForce 6600 256MB PCI Express video card Creative Labs SB Audigy2 ZS Platinum with drivebay Sony DVDRAM Thank you for helping! Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted March 30, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted March 30, 2005 Lets try replacing your modules. Please follow the link in my signature “I think I have a bad part!” and we will be happy to replace them or it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMP74 Posted May 5, 2005 Share Posted May 5, 2005 I would sure love to know how the replacement turned out for Cide. I have the same problem with the same setup: Asus A8N-E on bios 1003 vs1gbkit400 (2.5 cas) With a WinXP install I had the same symptoms Cide describes (blue screens, freezes, reboots, crash to desktops, and lots of "send/don't send" failure reports. With a win2k install, the problems are just as frequent, but instead of the "send/don't send" failure report window, I get the old, "the instruction at 0xblablabla referenced memory at 0xblablabla the memory could not be read" errors. This is only with the dimms in dual channel. They can ace diagnostic tools all day long when one at the time in single channel. Please help. This forum looks great. Any assistance is mucho appreciated. DMP74 Dan Pate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiDE Posted May 6, 2005 Author Share Posted May 6, 2005 Yeh whats really wierd is its rock solid stable with TwinX LL 1GB matched modules from my P4C800 Delux system. I used 2-2-3-6 2.75V with those and got zero problems with an XP install, general run, the new CounterStrike, Tribes Vengence, etc. No problems at all. Put the VS pieces back in and wham problems everywhere. Something is either way off on timings or the ram just doesnt seem compadible. I've done everything else. PSU is fine, 430W Antec TruePower. Its the damn VS RAM itself or the timings run or this particular board just doesnt like it. RAM GUY - Is there a possibility we can upgrade our modules under this circumstance that this is a listed Corsair most popular ram for this board and it plain doesnt work? I know for sure the TwinX LL 1GB pair works under 2-2-3-6 1T 2.75V BIOS V1003 release. I havent tried 2-2-2-6 as the RAM should be able to do though, but it was rock solid with that Corsair ram. Thanks, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted May 6, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted May 6, 2005 Please call our techsupport at 888-222-4346 and choose option "2" and we will do our best to help you solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
For The Core Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Almost have the exact same setup as CiDE, same board/ram/sound card/vid card and I'm having the exact same problem as both of these guys. Frequent blue screens, constant program crashes etc. Updated bios every chance I get, tried beta bios too. Ran memtest and other ram test utils, each stick by itself etc, passed everytime. Whats the deal???? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiDE Posted May 13, 2005 Author Share Posted May 13, 2005 Please call our techsupport at 888-222-4346 and choose option "2" and we will do our best to help you solve the problem. We called the number, the guy who talked to my friend with the problems said its probably the sound card interfering with the RAID setup. RAID is disabled in our BIOS and as we don't use it. How would this explain using better TWINX LL RAM, changing that only and it worked beautifully? I guess we can't exchange it, I don't see how we can get modules replaced with the same thing but not modules swapped for RAM that works with this setup. I am not a tech, I can't explain WHY it isnt working, but I do know WHAT works. And this ValueRAM does NOT work in this combo, too many people are having problems with it. Any other suggestions? Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted May 13, 2005 Share Posted May 13, 2005 Did you explain to the tech on the phone that the TwinXLLs worked fine at their rated timings on that board, but the VS did not? Yes, they ARE compatible. Sounds like bad memory, that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted May 13, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted May 13, 2005 I suggested that we try replacing the modules for DMP74 based on what he said. But I think we need to take these one step at a time. In addition the latest bios is A8VENW06 Ver 1.006 for A8N-E Deluxe I would suggest trying this bios and resetting the bios after you flash it. Or A8VE1006 Ver 1.006 depending on the specific version of MB you have. Also please tell me the complete part# of your modules with the lot #'s, you can email me the information at ramguy@corsairmemory.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryH Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 Someone mentioned in another thread that the manual for the A8N-E says it doesn't support "one pair of modules inserted into either the blue slots or the black slots as one pair of dual-channel memory configuration" for the VS512MB400 module. Is it possible that this could be the cause of the problem? The manual is available here: http://www.asus.com/support/download/item.aspx?ModelName=A8N-E&Type=All I'm planning on buying an A8N-E and using VS1GBKIT400, so I'm a little bit concerned... Anyone use this combo and not have any problems? I'm thinking there should be, but I'd like some reassurance. :winking: Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knightcrawler Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I suggested that we try replacing the modules for DMP74 based on what he said. But I think we need to take these one step at a time. In addition the latest bios is A8VENW06 Ver 1.006 for A8N-E Deluxe I would suggest trying this bios and resetting the bios after you flash it. Or A8VE1006 Ver 1.006 depending on the specific version of MB you have. Also please tell me the complete part# of your modules with the lot #'s, you can email me the information at ramguy@corsairmemory.com The bios is for the wrong mobo, A8V-E_Deluxe and A8N-E are very different. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted May 16, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted May 16, 2005 Sorry about that A8N-E Bios Ver 1.003 is the latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiDE Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Sorry about that A8N-E Bios Ver 1.003 is the latest. Yeh...we've tried all that. I dont know what to do, we can't make it work with any settings and noone seems to have ANY reliable timings, even non agressive ones. We have tried every BIOS beta and final that has come out and have them all on disks. Kinda disappointing, but I guess **** happens. What do you do. I know I'm not an expert on any of this, but simple assembly and timing entry are not rocket science. The results still suck, regardless of fault or blame on ANY vendor/company/chipmaker, and we still have no answer. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted May 16, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted May 16, 2005 Have we tried replacing your modules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmanfleas Posted January 5, 2006 Share Posted January 5, 2006 We cannot get through windows setup without random crashes and blue screens! The few times that the setup has completed the first boot of windows gives a critical error message and crashes out during service pack updates! Have tried with both modules in different slots in dual channel and single channel. Using an old kingston 256mb module resolved the problem and gave perfect stability! My specs are: AMD X2 4200+ Asus A8N-E Mobo VS1GBKIT400 C2.5 Hiper Type-R 480W psu PNY 7800GT Please advise Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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