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DDR2 XMS PRO (2x512) 675MHz Timings please help.?


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My spec's as follows:

Shuttle SB95PV2 FSB 800 MHz, Phonix Technologies LTD i925X

Corsair XMS Pro Twin 1GB PC5400

P4 570J SD-3.8GHz overclocked to 3.96GHz

 

Hello I'm trying to match my speeds from my PC using old Rambus as these suckers cost more than my old 1GB 40ns PC800.!

My new computer is great for encoding but day to day it's like a Bentley she eats too much power and she plods.! I have done the following to trim her up a bit, but would like a profesional opinion on what I have done wrong.?

 

SiSoftware Sandra

 

Benchmark Results

RAM Bandwidth Int Buff'd iSSE2 : 4652 MB/s

RAM Bandwidth Float Buff'd iSSE2 : 4670 MB/s

 

Int Buff'd iSSE2 (Integer STREAM) Results Breakdown

Assignment : 4557MB/s

Scaling : 4593MB/s

Addition : 4723MB/s

Triad : 4735MB/s

Data Item Size : 16 byte(s)

Buffering Used : Yes

Offset Displacement Used : Yes

Bandwidth Efficiency : 71% (estimated)

 

Float Buff'd iSSE2 (Float STREAM) Results Breakdown

Assignment : 4585MB/s

Scaling : 4591MB/s

Addition : 4753MB/s

Triad : 4754MB/s

Data Item Size : 16 byte(s)

Buffering Used : Yes

Offset Displacement Used : Yes

Bandwidth Efficiency : 71% (estimated)

 

Performance Test Status

Run ID : XPC on 22 March 2005 at 22:09:52

Memory Used by Test : 512MB

NUMA Support : No

SMP Test : No

Total Test Threads : 1

SMT Test : Yes

Number of Test SMT (per CPU) : 2

Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No

Processor Affinity : P0

Page Size : 4kB

Use Large Memory Pages : No

 

Chipset 1

Model : Holco Ent Co Ltd/Shuttle Computer 925x Memory Controller Hub

Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 206MHz (824MHz data rate)

Width : 64-bit

Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 6592MB/s (estimated)

 

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks

Bank 0 : 256MB DDR2-SDRAM 4.0-4-4-12CL 1CMD

Bank 1 : 256MB DDR2-SDRAM 4.0-4-4-12CL 1CMD

Bank 4 : 256MB DDR2-SDRAM 4.0-4-4-12CL 1CMD

Bank 5 : 256MB DDR2-SDRAM 4.0-4-4-12CL 1CMD

Channels : 2

Width : 64-bit

Performance Acceleration Technology : Yes

 

Features

(W)MMX Technology : Yes

SSE Technology : Yes

SSE2 Technology : Yes

SSE3 Technology : Yes

EMMX - Extended MMX Technology : No

HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes

 

CPU-Z

 

module 512MBytes

MAX bandwidth PC5300 (333 MHz)

Part number CM2X512-5400C4PRO

FREQ 333MHz

CAS LAT 4.0

RAS to CAS 5

RAS PRE 5

TRAS 15

 

Jay

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Jay

I do not understand what you are trying to get here; you are already exceeding RDRAM speeds.

 

Maximum Bus Bandwidth: 6592MB/s (estimated)

And what are the un-buffered results and you might try Everest to run the bench mark it’s a bit more easy to read and consistent.

And please tell me the exact bios settings you have set and the CPU speed you have installed.

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I do not understand what you are trying to get here; you are already exceeding RDRAM speeds.

 

Maximum Bus Bandwidth: 6592MB/s (estimated)

And what are the un-buffered results and you might try Everest to run the bench mark it’s a bit more easy to read and consistent.

And please tell me the exact bios settings you have set and the CPU speed you have installed.

Ram Dude

The main reason for this thread is that I found Rambus is quicker and thought DDR2 could give me better performance?

I'll re-phase that one, more smooth and stable.

My average temps are coming upto 55C MAX 62C with downloading programs on and nothing else.! Trying to make the Ram as effiecient so I can turn down FSB down abit.! wouldn't even boot at times of 3-3-3-8 but stable at 3.4-4-4-11 I've had it at 3.4-4-4-6 with FSB at 207MHz killed bench mark's on every test but started to over heat.!!!

 

I'm just trying to make the efficiency better, but not sure what balance for the Bios is a good combination?

Everest:

READ Dual DDR2-549 5552 MB/s

Write Dual DDR2-548 2168 MB/s

Latency CL-RCD-RP-RAS 4-4-4-11 90.6 ns

BIOS settings:

FSB 205.8MHz manually set

3.96GHZ

533MHZ memory clock mother board?

Multiple X19 sometimes X14 set to native mode other mode Fixed X14

Manual timings on other wise SPD as shown in CPU-Z

3.4-4-4-11CL

Bus speed 822MHZ

Voltage 1.2V

Frequency 273.9MHz

FSB: DRAM 3:4

CAS 4

RAS to CAS 4

RAS PRE 4

CT 11

See snap shots below!

 

Jay.

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I would set the Dim Voltage to 2.0 Volts and set the timings to Cass 4-4-4-12 with the memory frequency set to 533 MHz and try to over clock you CPU a bit more and see where it tops out. Probably arround 230-245 Mhz with this MB.
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I would set the Dim Voltage to 2.0 Volts and set the timongs to Cass 4-4-4-12 with the memory frequency set to 533 MHz and try to over clock you CPU a bit more and see where it tops out. Probably arround 230-245 Mhz with this MB.

 

Ram Dude

Can't increase FSB to 230 I'll melt the PC down or suffer noise damage from fans.!

Turned the Volts up to about 2.06V From 1.90V(This was the key turning up voltages!!)

Everest:

Read Speed

Dual DDR2-548 5600 MB/s

Write Speed

Dual DDR2-548 2175 MB/s

CL-RCD-RP-RAS Latency

Dual DDR2-548 4-4-4-7 89.7 ns

Si-Sandra:

SiSoftware Sandra

 

Benchmark Results

RAM Bandwidth Int Buff'd iSSE2 : 4676 MB/s

RAM Bandwidth Float Buff'd iSSE2 : 4677 MB/s

 

Int Buff'd iSSE2 (Integer STREAM) Results Breakdown

Assignment : 4582MB/s

Scaling : 4590MB/s

Addition : 4770MB/s

Triad : 4765MB/s

Data Item Size : 16 byte(s)

Buffering Used : Yes

Offset Displacement Used : Yes

Bandwidth Efficiency : 71% (estimated)

 

Float Buff'd iSSE2 (Float STREAM) Results Breakdown

Assignment : 4588MB/s

Scaling : 4580MB/s

Addition : 4767MB/s

Triad : 4774MB/s

Data Item Size : 16 byte(s)

Buffering Used : Yes

Offset Displacement Used : Yes

Bandwidth Efficiency : 71% (estimated)

 

Performance Test Status

Run ID : XPC on 24 March 2005 at 20:33:25

Memory Used by Test : 512MB

NUMA Support : No

SMP Test : No

Total Test Threads : 1

SMT Test : Yes

Number of Test SMT (per CPU) : 2

Dynamic MP/MT Load Balance : No

Processor Affinity : P0

Page Size : 4kB

Use Large Memory Pages : No

 

Chipset 1

Model : Holco Ent Co Ltd/Shuttle Computer 925x Memory Controller Hub

Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 206MHz (824MHz data rate)

Width : 64-bit

Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 6592MB/s (estimated)

 

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks

Bank 0 : 256MB DDR2-SDRAM 4.0-4-4-7CL 1CMD

Bank 1 : 256MB DDR2-SDRAM 4.0-4-4-7CL 1CMD

Bank 4 : 256MB DDR2-SDRAM 4.0-4-4-7CL 1CMD

Bank 5 : 256MB DDR2-SDRAM 4.0-4-4-7CL 1CMD

Channels : 2

Width : 64-bit

 

What else can we do.? I set the manual figures to 3:4-4-4-7 Your suggestion sorry dude but gave me a poor performance.4-4-4-12 at 2.0V

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As long as your system is stable I would stay where you are then.

 

Thanks Ram dude for all the help the voltage seems to have done the trick making it very stable. 87ns still slower than my rambus, but will get better cooling for the P4. This Ram does perform will have to wait until dual core processors come out and find how she reacts to them.!! :laughing:

 

Jay.

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Ram dude just to let you know I have improved the figures below but had to turn off the 533MHz to auto mode in bios. This improves the sync between CPU and RAM I think?

Update 3-3-3-8

Everest

Read 5725

Write 2286

Laytency 86.5

Can't improve the Laytency without reducing the other RAS and CAS.?

The best Laytency was on

3-3-3-6

But

Read 5580

Write 2280

Lay 84ns.

 

Any sugestions.?

Jay

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Ram guy from my previous posts can you tell me where do I start to change the ratio between FSB and RAM without changing the 4-4-4-12 or 4-5-5-15 for 675-772 MHz on the Ram I have. I realise that the divider can sort out the 3:4 currently on my set up but if correctly noticed there is only 400MHz or 533 and auto in the Bios. Where else would I change a ratio to 5:4 or 1:1?

I'm starting to understand that P4's need loads of bandwidth to operate efficiently and tightning the timmings will not give me joy.

Your help in this is much appreciated.

:D:

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You should set the memory Freq at 533 MHz and then lower the CPU multiplier and over clock your CPU, but this MB and or system is not known to be a over clockable MB so you may not have all of these options.
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