Yellowbeard Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 Continued from another thread: http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/showthread.php?p=176840#post176840 Now have a look again at the XMS buyer's guide (http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair...uyers_guide.pdf) and see the rating of the memory which is proposed for an overclocker kind of guy, who owns a 915 chipset. Only an extreme oc-er is recommended a PC4400 mem In the original thread, the poster did not buy PC3200XL (he should have) and he does not own a 915P chipset. The guide you referenced is accurate. So, what point are you trying to make :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 In the buyer's guide, a PC3200 (DDR400) memory is recommended to overclockers, as opposed to what CandyKid said that Corsair would recommend system overclocking only if using memory guaranteed to work at system clocks higher than 200. The review from Viperlair also is about PC3200/DDR400 memory and talks about overclocking. hope I didn't confuse you more, please let me know in what way I am wrong by quoting this two as not 100% accurate info, then we'll start a new thread if you insist; otherwise case closed :). ANY RAM that exceeds any part of the JEDEC specification is considered OCing RAM. And, the PC3200C2 will pretty consistantly run past 200mhz. So, I think it is pretty clear to see how the term is accurate and the chart used is acccurate. But, I won't belabor the point. You have a different perspective and it may well be that some info in there would confuse someone. I have only been self-building but, I also seem to have a good affinity for RAM. That's why I hang out here so much. It has been a long time since I looked at this stuff from the angle you present. CJ, have you watched the Memory Basics presentation? If so, do you think it would help clear up any of what you see might mislead a new builder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalamityJake Posted March 1, 2005 Share Posted March 1, 2005 CJ, have you watched the Memory Basics presentation? If so, do you think it would help clear up any of what you see might mislead a new builder? Nope, haven't watched it (yet), probably will enjoy it tommorrow, it's 0:30 AM here, been in front of computer for more than 12 hours and at this time I would probably understand nothing from the presentation. I'm really anxious to see what it has to say about overclocking ;). Does it have sound, too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowbeard Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 You must be in the UK? Anyways, the memory presentation is VERY basic really but, it would probably help clear up some of the "mysticism" surrounding computer spex these days. It gives a buyer researching memory a basic foundation from which to investigate the spex. L8R, Mike . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC_KING Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 CalamityJake, you are pin pointing all the ads mistakes done by corsair. Same as what i did before this, cheers! High expectation comes with good advertisement. Corsair's ads are proven good, congrats to their marketing department. The MEMORY BASICS WORKSHOP is informative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted March 2, 2005 Share Posted March 2, 2005 Well, it's true that kind of all references are indirect (haven't searched all pages yet though), but I still find them misleading and deceitful. For example, in the "XMS buyer's guide", available at http://www.corsairmicro.com/corsair/products/guides/buyers_guide.pdf it's hinted that if you consider yourself an overclocker or an "extreme OC", you should buy a particular model, depending on your mb chipset. Also, there are a lot of third-party reviews which you proudly reproduce on your site, reviews that praise the overclocking capabilities of the Corsair memory. The unfair part is that you use these very reviews as an argument as to why the Corsair is (one of) the best memory in the world. Here are some links; all you need to do is search the corsairmicro.com site (ie by Google) for "overclocking": Personally, I think that buyers guide needs to be revised. IIRC, the 4400C25s weren't out back then and as such wouldn't be on that list. I think the compatibility tool is more up to date. As for linking to 3rd party reviews, there's nothing wrong with that. It's not Corsair's opinion, it's theirs. They're just linking to them. I have never seen Corsair using reviews to support the argument of being the best memory company in the world. I've only seen them allude to polls and awards to supporting that argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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