Bozkurt Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Hello Corsair and Fellow forum members, I hope you would consider this as useful feedback. I watched quite a few reviews in making up my mind with which RGB fans to get. A lot of reviewers concluded that LL series was the BEST available RGB fans out there. So I bought 3/3 for a nice setup. I must say I was very disappointed with the fans as they light up in some princess mode that can't be changed. Corsair's official response seems to be *shrug* our hardware wasn't designed for the LL series.I pretty much tried to find a solution, as they look great when running with software, but that small detail didn't sit well with me. I didn't like spending a great amount of time coming up with a good lighting mode just to have it revert to unicorns and rainbows ever time I boot up my PC. In short, I was disappointed that Corsair designed great fans, but didn't design hardware necessary to support them. The sentiment here is that everyone else LOVES that obnoxious start-up mode, so I at least understand why that is the default mode. It just is not for me. I've since returned the fans. I hope that this is a useful critique of otherwise great fans. P.S. I bought the TT Riing RGB PLUS Premium set instead, and was disappointed that they did the same thing on start-up. The big difference is that TT staff was able to inform me of a fix and therefore those stay in my case for the time being. I'd be interested in seeing if Corsair will finally create Hardware capable of proper support for the LL series. I also noticed that TT has new fans called the PLUS Trio, so I will also try those out in hopes that they will behave in a similar manner to the Riings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyR Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I agree with you, it is sad that all the other devices have hardware "saved" rgb functions, but not the LL fans (which I believe are there top of the pack fans). So when my system boots / power off my fans are out of sync of the other devices and in a wrong color mode. But they are still glorious and pretty when I can have my lighting mode on, but I due understand your issues and I agree it is a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-attack Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 They made it pretty clear from launch the LL series would always require the software to be active. That was an often discussed topic here, but the typical asterisk on the product page likely does not convey the necessary details. The other RGB fans (HD and ML-RGB) do support hardware playback and will keep their lighting profile on boot and when Link is not running. Or rather they did. iCUE does not support hardware playback for any of the devices, pumps, fans, or strips. It is possible the advanced layering capability makes this impossible with iCUE, but that question has never been addressed. It is my most wished for feature and I bought a case full of capable devices, that are no longer capable. It is in part why I have spent much of the last several months still on Link, where that ability is preserved. The question of whether it is possible to bring lighting playback to iCUE is something that needs to dealt with. It's not fair to spend $300-400 on fans, then have someone change the game. However, we do know the LL series is always going to require active software and there is a hardware difference between them and the Riing series you have now. Those are more like the HD series in terms of LED layout. It's not the same thing, but obviously you can make your own choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozkurt Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 I'm glad there is agreement on the forums that this is an issue that corsair should address. As, I've said they are gorgeous when link/icue is running. But after spending a good amount of time on a lighting set-up it's disheartening to have it all be for naught when the PC boots. As has been stated, spending $300-400 on fans?!?! only to have them function what I think is in an unacceptable way, even if corsair had stated that's how they would is the reason for my return. Particularly when they seem to just ignore quite a bit of outcry when it comes to the issue. Just my 2cents: I'm not gonna spend that amount of money on a product that I don't believe functions how I want it to. To give you another example, I shied away from a BMW simply because of their absurd stance that they would not include Android Auto, despite having the IOS equivalent, because "they want people to use the BMW ecosystem of information". The idrive is very good at what it does, its just ignorant on their part and they wont get my money. If im going to pay upwards of $600 i expect it to have the features I want (or in corsairs case $400). If it doesn't I'll happily take my money elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiessar Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 There is nothing to address, it would be exorbitantly expensive to include a microcontroller and EPROM on every fan. If you want a full hardware solution, you can DIY one of the many Arduino RGB controller kits, as the Corsair RGB control is pretty standard. This also unlocks much more potential for custom lighting control that just can't be done in the hundreds of layers iCue provides too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyR Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 They made it pretty clear from launch the LL series would always require the software to be active. That was an often discussed topic here, but the typical asterisk on the product page likely does not convey the necessary details. The other RGB fans (HD and ML-RGB) do support hardware playback and will keep their lighting profile on boot and when Link is not running. Or rather they did. iCUE does not support hardware playback for any of the devices, pumps, fans, or strips. It is possible the advanced layering capability makes this impossible with iCUE, but that question has never been addressed. It is my most wished for feature and I bought a case full of capable devices, that are no longer capable. It is in part why I have spent much of the last several months still on Link, where that ability is preserved. The question of whether it is possible to bring lighting playback to iCUE is something that needs to dealt with. It's not fair to spend $300-400 on fans, then have someone change the game. However, we do know the LL series is always going to require active software and there is a hardware difference between them and the Riing series you have now. Those are more like the HD series in terms of LED layout. It's not the same thing, but obviously you can make your own choices. I knew what I went into, actually I expected them to be "off" until the software started but I guess it could be easily looked up. I think the product page is pretty clear that they don't have any hardware save functionality so no hard feelings. But I still think it will be great or could be great if you could get some extra microcontroller etc. where corsair did all the hard work and I can just throw my money at them to get hardware save functionality. Even if it is just a device between hub and copro I don't mind. I wouldn't mind to pay 40 euros for a device that could do that, it's overall a low cost compared to the rest of my build :sunglasse It is fair that they didn't include it in the fans themselves to keep the cost down for the user, since I don't think everyone need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiessar Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 But I still think it will be great or could be great if you could get some extra microcontroller etc. Corsair DID throw you a controller, it's called a Lighting Node Pro, it just happens that the software for it requires Windows to run. An Arduino will set you back ~ $10. There is a lot of off the shelf open source software for controlling digital LEDs out. The effects you can achieve will outdo anything iCue can achieve. [ame] [/ame] [ame] [/ame] [ame] [/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyR Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Corsair DID throw you a controller, it's called a Lighting Node Pro, it just happens that the software for it requires Windows to run. Which leads back to that I need to have windows and the ICue service running in the background. It is some cool videos for sure! and I know it is low cost to buy an arduino and do it myself. My issue is the time it takes to do such thing, I will rather pay someone to do it ;): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiessar Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 Shouldn't be too hard to find someone to pay on airtasker/fivrer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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