Paps4 Posted February 13, 2005 Share Posted February 13, 2005 I am building up the courage to rewrite this thread, because the stupid wd dlg utility navigated away while i was typing :[pouts: Anyway... I have been getting freezes with my newly assembled pc. I have a P5AD2-E motherboard, and bought the Corsair xms2 5400 2x 1gb chips. In the beginning i though it was the drives, so i ran a full check on them. No bad clusters. Thus i checked the ram, and one of the modules was bad. I returned it for warranty, and am working with 1gb atm. After i ran the memtest86 thingy :) for 8 hours, the rest 1gb of ram was ok to go. I would still get freezes. I narrowed down the problem to my sound cards. I have 2x creamware luna 2's linked together. I have disabled the onboard audio. The problem was that one of them was sharing an irq with the firewire! I thought nothing at first, but once i tried to change their latency settings, the whole system would freeze (mouse keyboards... the works :(: ) I tried disabling the firewire, and everything seemed ok. I would change latency, no problems... Thus i rearranged their pci locations. This seemed to solve the problem (with the firewire on) for about a month. I did not get a single crash, except for some irregular behaviour (stuttering) while in nuendo (music software). So i thought that the irq's were problematic. So i removed one of the two cards, and the one was running at irq22. The latency would change no problems again. Firewire disabled. And now i'm getting random freezes like before. I tried putting the previous configuration (2x sound cards and firewire on) and even though the firewire is not sharing, the latency change gets stuck. I also get random freezes for some reason.. I'm checking drives for bad clusters again. The cpu temp is at 50-55 celcius just by typing this thread... The fan i have is a zalman cnps7700alcu running without the speed controller (at 1800 rpms). My psu is a zalman 400watt 20pin one. I don't know what to do. I will run the memory test again overnight to see if something has gone bad in the ram. I'm going insane please help!! Also anyone know why cpuz finds my ram running at 5300 and not 5400? Do i need to oc my cpu for that??? I have all the settings to auto in the bios... The SATA drives are in ahci mode. MB: Asus P5AD2-E Premium CPU: Intel P4 550 (3.4 GHz) 800 FSB RAM: at the moment 1x 1gb XMS2 DDR2 Corsair 5400 HDDs: Western Digital 74 Gb Raptor 10000 rpm - WD 250 GB 8 MB Cache SATA - WD 250 Gb 8 MB Cache PATA IDE. sound: onboard disabled - at the moment 1x creamware luna 2 VGA: PCI-E Gigabyte 6600 GT (running at 70 degrees celcius with silent pipe thingy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted February 14, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted February 14, 2005 Please try and set the DIm Voltage to 1.9 Volts and then test the modules one at a time. If you still have problems please tell me the bios settings you have set for both CPU and memory and any performance settings that you may have set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paps4 Posted February 15, 2005 Author Share Posted February 15, 2005 Please try and set the DIm Voltage to 1.9 Volts and then test the modules one at a time. If you still have problems please tell me the bios settings you have set for both CPU and memory and any performance settings that you may have set? I have set the voltage to 1.9, and the pc still gets stuck I had everything set to auto, so no performance enhancements. One thing though, does the auto settings overclock the pci bus? if yes the how can i set it to the default mhz speed without variating speed changes (from the auto setting). Because this could be one problem with my sound card. I also figured out that the system freezes completely, except the screen for some strange reason??? I was recording something in nuendo, and then the recording continued with no input from my keyboard mouse, OR my midi keyboard, OR the power button. So prettymuch dead except for the screen which kept on recording... (The sound went into an infinite loop though). Nothing is overheating at the moment of the freeze. I also get some stuttering with nearly 0% cpu usage from nuendo completely randomly??? weird... anyone any ideas??? check out this screenshot after i switched to 1.9volts... the rest of the settings still auto (except for the cpu which i set to 200) http://www.nick-p.com/screenshot.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted February 15, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted February 15, 2005 Please try and set the timings manually to the tested settings for the modules you have. Which you can find by following the link in my signature. If that does not resolve the problem, then lets try replacing your modules. Please follow the link in my signature “I think I have a bad part!” and we will be happy to replace them or it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paps4 Posted February 16, 2005 Author Share Posted February 16, 2005 Please try and set the timings manually to the tested settings for the modules you have. Which you can find by following the link in my signature. If that does nto resolve the problem, then lets try replacing your modules. Please follow the link in my signature “I think I have a bad part!” and we will be happy to replace them or it! Hello again, First of all. I have gotten one of the two modules (that seemed to have a problem) replaced. The new one seems ok as well. I tried it by itself, and 200% testing in the memtest86+ software. No problems with the chip itself. I though I had figured out what the problem was, but unfortunatelly I was mistaken. I thought that my soundcard software (or the sequencer - cubase) did not support hyperthreading correctly. I figured this out, because I put the sequencer under the usual stress, and had the task manager window open. I then saw that when my pc "froze" the second processor was hitting 100% AND the taskmanager had not frozen. Again just keyboard mouse and any sort of input in the pc. So i disabled HT and all seemed fine, even under a huge cpu load from the sequencer. And just as I was about ready to shutdown, and sleep in peace :): the pc froze again. I am now thinking that the motherboard it self with all these "ai nos" useless technologies (no offence :p: ) is changing bus speed constantly, so my soundcard can't take it??? not shure, but If anyone has the p5ad2-e and a 3.4 P4 processor (800 FSB) and the Corsair xms2 1GB per chip 4-4-4-12 (x2) can tell me how to make the cpu speed and fsb set to a stable value instead of auto. Also was it a good idea to set the pci frequency to 33.33 mhz?? isn't that the standard of pci, or is it overclocked?? I did this mostly because i read that my sound card does not work well under an overclocked pci bus, so i'm just trying to eliminate possibilities. Thank you for your quick responses, nick-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
favianroldan Posted February 16, 2005 Share Posted February 16, 2005 for overclocking change the auto to manual. from there you can change the standard 200mhz to what you want. i.e. 215,220,230,250... and make sure your latency is set at 4-4-4-12. for the pci speed leave at auto. you are going to fine at what mhz you pc can be stable. find yourself a program to stress test it. I can't fine the name of the one I have, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paps4 Posted February 16, 2005 Author Share Posted February 16, 2005 for overclocking change the auto to manual. from there you can change the standard 200mhz to what you want. i.e. 215,220,230,250... and make sure your latency is set at 4-4-4-12. for the pci speed leave at auto. you are going to fine at what mhz you pc can be stable. find yourself a program to stress test it. I can't fine the name of the one I have, sorry I have set that to 200 mhz and the ram is at 4-4-4-12. Pci speed i left to 33.33. Either setting 33.33 or auto still freezing. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted February 16, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted February 16, 2005 What PSU are you using? And have you check with the MB maker to make sure its compatible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paps4 Posted February 17, 2005 Author Share Posted February 17, 2005 What PSU are you using? And have you check with the MB maker to make sure its compatible? I'm using the Zalman ZM400A-APF 20 Pin. It is compatible since according to the mb documentation it needs to supply at least 15A on the 12 V rail and it does supply exactly that much. I'm only using 1 pci card and 3 hdds and 400watts should handle it right?? Could the PSU be a reason for freezing? I mean the vcore seems stable enough at 1.4 ... and i'm not overclocking the cpu. Thank you for your quick reply... awaiting for response... nick-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employees RAM GUY Posted February 17, 2005 Corsair Employees Share Posted February 17, 2005 Nick I would suggest you take a look at section 2-16 page 2-35 under ATP Power connections. It clearly states that using a 20 pin ATX 12V PSU IS NOT Recomended. In fact the first paragraph suggests you use a ATX 24 Pin ATX-2.0 Compliant PSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAL9000 Posted February 17, 2005 Share Posted February 17, 2005 Hi I'm new to this forum. I just completed my system with Twin PC2-5400Pro and P5AD2-E board. Asus mobo seems to need a lot of power. I'm using OCZ Powerstream 520W with adjustable rails. You can adjust the power on 12v rail in case you need extra juice. This PSU comes with 24pin connector. As of now, no problems in powering two optical drives, two case fans, CPU fan, two SATA dirves, Corsair RAM, Audigy sound card, ATI 800x based garphics card and all on board extras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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