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Hello all from a Newbie. Think I have worked this one out and putting it up for information for anyone else who has problems

 

Installed a Hydro H60 in my new build pc on Gigabyte Z370 HD3P mb. Fan into cpu fan header.. pump into header 3. fan working, could not check the pump but seemed to be working.

 

Found that the fan was always roaring away but my cpu temperatures 60 to 80 degrees (Centigrade)... hot..

 

Inspiration and found the fan control in bios... cpu fan was responding to the high cpu temperature but pump fan was looking at system 3 temp... about 27, so not pumping. Changed system 3 fan (pump) controller to look at cpu temperature and got temperature down to about 40... put it on continuous and now running at 24 and can't hear the fan at all. Success!

 

this is not at all clear in the installation instructions... maybe worth writing in?

 

Cheers

Mark... wonderful to be silent and safely cool! ;):

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I think best practice is to plug AIOs into CPU header. Gigabyte motherboards do have the SIV app available via App Center. SIV has a auto configuration that helps you adjust your fan curves. FYI it will take priority over the BIOS settings. I am guessing you are using a unlocked/k-series Coffee Lake and are overclocking? For your situation set the AIO as exhausting and use at least two intake fans in the front behind a filter to feed the AIO and the GPU. One of the most commonly overlooked perks of AIO is you can remove the hot air so the GPU can run cooler and boost more. If your GPU gets to hot, then it can throttle or not boost, if capable.
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There is a general sticky regarding cooler FAQs in the top of the cooling section. Yes, far and away not setting the MB header to proper full 12v/100%/maximum/disabled setting is the most common issue for first time users. With the H60, you want to pump to get 12v at all times and it should register a speed of 4000-4400 in the BIOS and some monitoring software. The fan you can tune like a normal fan in accordance with CPU temperature or a temp probe if available.
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Yes, I have an unlocked Core i5 8600k... but not overclocked. My requirement is silence and a very stable system for Speech Recognition (Dragon).

Thanks for the advice. I have discovered by trial and error that the system works most efficiently on continuous 12v supply to the pump and have disabled the inbuilt controls. And the fan is controlled by the bios using cpu temperature and is evidently working as it should looking at my cpu temperature now.

I dont remember seeing any advice in the installation instructions to use the Corsair software to control the fans... tried using Gigabyte... which was dreadful and giving me BSODs every day.. and difficult to work out... think I am happy with my present setup... but a not entirely intuitive experience in what I had expected to be a straightforward consumer setup! But logical when you think about it.

Cheers

Mark

 

And the fan is set on exhaust... not overclocked so only one case fan in a Corsair Carbide case and all other temperatures are well in spec.

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I dont remember seeing any advice in the installation instructions to use the Corsair software to control the fans... tried using Gigabyte... which was dreadful and giving me BSODs every day.. and difficult to work out... think I am happy with my present setup... but a not entirely intuitive experience in what I had expected to be a straightforward consumer setup! But logical when you think about it.

Cheers

Mark

 

Just happy to see you've got it all figured out. As for the controlling the fans, you don't really need the CORSAIR software to control the fans. The fans and the pump are controlled by your motherboard.

 

You might have missed it, but in the quick start guide, there should be a part where it shows where you connect the fans on your motherboard to ensure that your pump get fed 12v at all times.

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Thanks for that.

I have been back to the instructions... just says "connect power connector to any available 3 pin fan header on the motherboard". Job done! There is nothing about going into the bios or downloading fan control software.

I am sure it comes as second nature to a professional but as a complete amateur who had not built a pc for nearly 10 years before this one, I was not aware that fan headers gave off anything other than 12v or were linked to motherboard temperature sensors and, certainly not that you could change that linkage in the bios... if I thought anything, I probably assumed that they would monitor directly through the connection you were making. Found the section in the "stickie" and, yes, it is there but I had no reason to find the forum when I was building and was, basically, running my system without proper cooling for six weeks... only the constant crashing caused by the Gigabyte fan control that made me check the temperatures, then power connections and go into the bios to check the settings. I had a very noisy system running hot and was wondering whether to cut my losses and replace with a conventional cooler and fan...

Definitely worth taking a look at those instructions... preferably with someone who has no prior knowledge of installing these things... I doubt I am the only one.

Cheers

Mark

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Thanks for that.

I have been back to the instructions... just says "connect power connector to any available 3 pin fan header on the motherboard". Job done! There is nothing about going into the bios or downloading fan control software.

I am sure it comes as second nature to a professional but as a complete amateur who had not built a pc for nearly 10 years before this one, I was not aware that fan headers gave off anything other than 12v or were linked to motherboard temperature sensors and, certainly not that you could change that linkage in the bios... if I thought anything, I probably assumed that they would monitor directly through the connection you were making. Found the section in the "stickie" and, yes, it is there but I had no reason to find the forum when I was building and was, basically, running my system without proper cooling for six weeks... only the constant crashing caused by the Gigabyte fan control that made me check the temperatures, then power connections and go into the bios to check the settings. I had a very noisy system running hot and was wondering whether to cut my losses and replace with a conventional cooler and fan...

Definitely worth taking a look at those instructions... preferably with someone who has no prior knowledge of installing these things... I doubt I am the only one.

Cheers

Mark

 

That is pretty odd, Motherboard software in general is pretty much lackluster and the Fusion software available via App Center, at least when I downloaded it constantly consumed 25% of my CPU. I downloaded a newer version of both SIV, Fusion, and App center directly from GB's website and that fixed the issues that I was having. I don't think I ever saw SIV crash, though it is more something I use maybe once a month. If you get any software from GB, use the release on their website, don't download it via app center.

 

If you want to make sure your system is even quieter, make sure your fan is pushing.

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SIV, .

 

I dont think that SIV is the correct name for the software you are talking about dude. I think thats just a part of a bigger package by gigabyte?.. the original SIV is written by a guy called redray who is no longer with us.... free program and aimed at power users. Which there are a few of on this forum...

 

http://rh-software.com

 

If you search the forum you will find much info on it.

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the original SIV is written by a guy called redray who is no longer with us.... free program and aimed at power users. Which there are a few of on this forum...

 

http://rh-software.com

 

If you search the forum you will find much info on it.

 

Interesting... using CPUID Hardware monitor at the moment which seems to be giving me accurate info.

https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

 

Many thanks all round... a superb cooler now it is working... giving me everything I wanted.

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Interesting... using CPUID Hardware monitor at the moment which seems to be giving me accurate info.

https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/hwmonitor.html

 

Many thanks all round... a superb cooler now it is working... giving me everything I wanted.

 

be careful what monitoring you mix and match dude.. conflicts can occur.. Imho you only need one, and as I bought into the corsair ecosystem I chose LINK... it's all I need for info.. gives what I need :)

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I dont think that SIV is the correct name for the software you are talking about dude. I think thats just a part of a bigger package by gigabyte?.. the original SIV is written by a guy called redray who is no longer with us.... free program and aimed at power users. Which there are a few of on this forum...

 

http://rh-software.com

 

If you search the forum you will find much info on it.

 

Don't know if it uses that tool in the back end or if the name is a coincidence. Granted Gigabyte does have a branded version of CPU-Z. In Gigabyte "App Center" there is a tool called "SIV".

 

System Information Viewer / Smart Fan 5 (Intel 300 series)

 

GIGABYTE-App-Center.png

http://www.overclock.net/photopost/data/1693498/7/7f/7f17bb00_fan-software.PNG

 

Correct me if I am wrong, I didn't think Link could control fans that aren't connected to the commander pro. Something I read said it could read the data, but you could only set fan curbs for devices connected to the commander Pro.

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From what we know of the author... not a chance it sits in the background lol.. Think what I was saying is that if you mention 'SIV' round here everyone will assume its the 'alternative' Version as apposed to the Gigabyte version (which at doesn't look too bad.. nice (ish) UI really)

 

off on a tangent. wonder who actually has the Rights to use SIV or indeed System Information Viewer wording.

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From what we know of the author... not a chance it sits in the background lol.. Think what I was saying is that if you mention 'SIV' round here everyone will assume its the 'alternative' Version as apposed to the Gigabyte version (which at doesn't look too bad.. nice (ish) UI really)

 

off on a tangent. wonder who actually has the Rights to use SIV or indeed System Information Viewer wording.

 

Who knows?

 

In general I am not impressed with Software tools provided by the MB, most seem bloat like. Though SIV by Gigabyte is the better one I have seen. It actually calibrates the fan speeds. It will send full power/PWM and then slow them down as it figures out what is PWM and Voltaged control, until they all stop. It makes setting curbs easy. I then just leave it as is after that, with the exception of setting my pump to 100%. Oddly enough my pump is louder when it is under voltage control. I am using a D5 on a 3amp header, which would have to much of a power draw for most standard fan headers.

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