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Hands down, the PC4400C2.5 seems like your best bet. At both stock and OCed speeds you'll get awesome performance and good latencies.

 

Happy Holidays, Mike.

 

Mike,

I am upgrading to the ASUS AN8 SLI board as well, any idea if my DDR500 pro will work OK? I would like to use it for awhile if it runs stable. Please don't hate me for turning AMD :laughing:

 

SLI is a big jump for me, but with a new house and line of credit, I couldn't resist :biggrin:

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Mike,

I am upgrading to the ASUS AN8 SLI board as well, any idea if my DDR500 pro will work OK? I would like to use it for awhile if it runs stable. Please don't hate me for turning AMD :laughing:

 

SLI is a big jump for me, but with a new house and line of credit, I couldn't resist :biggrin:

No hate for AMD, I buy Intel because we do video editing. And, I just got a 939 MOBO myself. From what I have seen, the PC4000 Corsair would be great in the 939 MOBOs. But, if I was buying new, the PC44000C2.5 would be my first choice for a high FSB setting. You should be fine. You will just be like everyone else and figure the optimum bios settings on the new boards.

 

Have fun! Mike.

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Hands down, the PC4400C2.5 seems like your best bet. At both stock and OCed speeds you'll get awesome performance and good latencies.

 

Happy Holidays, Mike.

 

 

Mike/Ram Guy,

 

I am also planning to get the ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe MB. (http://usa.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=A8N-SLI%20Deluxe&langs=09).

 

I am not sure if I should buy TWINX1024-3200XL or TWINX1024-4400C25.

http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/xms.html

 

Do you think 4400C25 is better than 3200XL for this MB?

 

Which heat spreader is better with this memory? Black or platinum?

 

I see 3200XL comes with Plug-n-Frag Auto Configuration and 4400C25 does not. Does that mean I have to manually configure 4400C25?

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Mike/Ram Guy,

 

I am also planning to get the ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe MB. (http://usa.asus.com/prog/spec.asp?m=A8N-SLI%20Deluxe&langs=09).

 

I am not sure if I should buy TWINX1024-3200XL or TWINX1024-4400C25.

http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/xms.html

 

Do you think 4400C25 is better than 3200XL for this MB?

 

Which heat spreader is better with this memory? Black or platinum?

 

I see 3200XL comes with Plug-n-Frag Auto Configuration and 4400C25 does not. Does that mean I have to manually configure 4400C25?

WOW! I got my name up before RAM GUY, I must be moving up in the world :D:

 

I will hold off on saying which is "BEST" for your MOBO as I have not played with enough 939 gear. However, IMO, if you plan to OC, go for the 4400C2.5. If you plan to run at stock, or perhaps a mild OC, get the PC3200XL.

 

My XL will maintain VERY tight latencies without having to loosen them all the way up to 225mhz on my Intel MOBOs. I have just now put the XL into my 939 so I can give you my feedback there later. The 4400 is reputed to run just about as well at low speeds as the XL and offer a much higher top speed. So, you OCing needs will determine your choice. Again, IMO.

 

I have not seen any proof that either color dissapates heat any better than the other. So, I would base the spreader color on you case colors/lighting etc. I like the platinum in lighted cases.

 

Regardless of plug n frag, I would highly suggest that you set the optimum RAM timings manually. And, set your RAM voltage up to the neighborhood of 2.7v to 2.8v.

 

Mike.

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Mike Thanks

 

ASUS A8N-SLI spec says it support

 

4 x 184-pin DIMM Sockets support max.

4GB DDR400/DDR333/DDR266 ECC/ non-ECC un-buffered DDR SDRAM memory

Dual Channel Memory Architecture

 

TWINX1024-4400C25 is DDR550 memory

 

Would this be a problem?

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Mike Thanks

 

ASUS A8N-SLI spec says it support

 

4 x 184-pin DIMM Sockets support max.

4GB DDR400/DDR333/DDR266 ECC/ non-ECC un-buffered DDR SDRAM memory

Dual Channel Memory Architecture

 

TWINX1024-4400C25 is DDR550 memory

 

Would this be a problem?

No, the 4400C2.5 will run at stock speeds of DDR400. And, I have heard it will run almost as tight on the latencies at that speed as the PC3200XL. BUT! I cannot verify that yet. I do have some to test but I have not done it yet and Corsair does not officially support that. They only guarantee it to run at 275mhz/DDR550 at the rated timings.

 

That above is why I said your OCing needs are what will determine your RAM choice. If you really want to "pour the coal to it" and go for a super high FSB speed, PC4400C2.5. If you plan on staying stock or a mild OC, PC3200XL.

 

L8R, Mike

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No, the 4400C2.5 will run at stock speeds of DDR400. And, I have heard it will run almost as tight on the latencies at that speed as the PC3200XL. BUT! I cannot verify that yet. I do have some to test but I have not done it yet and Corsair does not officially support that. They only guarantee it to run at 275mhz/DDR550 at the rated timings.

 

That above is why I said your OCing needs are what will determine your RAM choice. If you really want to "pour the coal to it" and go for a super high FSB speed, PC4400C2.5. If you plan on staying stock or a mild OC, PC3200XL.

 

L8R, Mike

 

 

 

it will run as tight as the xlpt it is backwards compatable, but the xlpt 3200 cant go up to that speed the 4400xlpt are backwards compatable .But who am I ...well ill tell but it wont make a difference , i asked the RAM guy same question a few months ago he said ... so if ya dont believe me he said im just opening my mouth faster at this point ....excellent Ram all the way....

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it will run as tight as the xlpt it is backwards compatable, but the xlpt 3200 cant go up to that speed the 4400xlpt are backwards compatable .But who am I ...well ill tell but it wont make a difference , i asked the RAM guy same question a few months ago he said ... so if ya dont believe me he said im just opening my mouth faster at this point ....excellent Ram all the way....

 

Sorry, but there's NO guarantee that the 4400C25's will hit 2-2-2-5 @ 400 Mhz.

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Sorry, but there's NO guarantee that the 4400C25's will hit 2-2-2-5 @ 400 Mhz.

 

 

WELL im sorry too then when I II

recieved the message that s what it SAID SO theres NO GUARANTEE IN WALKING OUT SIDE EITHER OR GETTING ON THE BUS, well mine got there just fine thats a GUARANTEE ENOUGH FOR ME ........OK SO SORRY THAT

 

also heres the email but WIRED TO inside of of something

 

Dear Sir,

 

The XL modules are only rated to run at DDR400 with a 2/2/2/5 CAS settings, now the 4400C25 are backwards compatible which are rated to run at DDR550 with a 2.5/4/4/8 CAS settings; however our 3200XL are not backwards compatible, since the memory frequency are running higher than the XL.

 

Best regards,

Ram Guy

ramguy@corsairmmemory.com

Corsair Memory Technical Support

Corsair Micro Inc.

Corsair Corporate Headquarters

44141 South Grimmer Blvd

Fremont, CA. 94538

(510) 657-8747 Tel

(510) 657-8748 Fax

http://www.corsairmemory.com

http://www.asktheramguy.com

When and/or if you reply to an email please include all previous emails.

 

 

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your right it doesnt say YOUR guaranteed there

your right it doesnt say YOUR guaranteed there your right it doesnt say YOUR guaranteed there

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WELL im sorry too then when I II

recieved the message that s what it SAID SO theres NO GUARANTEE IN WALKING OUT SIDE EITHER OR GETTING ON THE BUS, well mine got there just fine thats a GUARANTEE ENOUGH FOR ME ........OK SO SORRY THAT

 

also heres the email but WIRED TO inside of of something

 

Dear Sir,

 

The XL modules are only rated to run at DDR400 with a 2/2/2/5 CAS settings, now the 4400C25 are backwards compatible which are rated to run at DDR550 with a 2.5/4/4/8 CAS settings; however our 3200XL are not backwards compatible, since the memory frequency are running higher than the XL.

 

Best regards,

Ram Guy

ramguy@corsairmmemory.com

Corsair Memory Technical Support

Corsair Micro Inc.

Corsair Corporate Headquarters

44141 South Grimmer Blvd

Fremont, CA. 94538

(510) 657-8747 Tel

(510) 657-8748 Fax

http://www.corsairmemory.com

http://www.asktheramguy.com

When and/or if you reply to an email please include all previous emails.

 

 

_________________________________________________________________

 

your right it doesnt say YOUR guaranteed there

your right it doesnt say YOUR guaranteed there your right it doesnt say YOUR guaranteed there

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I'm still :confused:

 

I believe this is what matters if you call in for an RMA: http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/products/specs/TWINX1024-4400C25.pdf

 

And, I'm not sure what urban survival techniques and bus etiquette have to do with the original posters question:

 

will be buying a Nforce4 MB soon and need to find out what is the absolute fastest and best Corsair memory there is for these boards, I am considering the A8N-SLi Deluxe nForce4 SLi Board.

 

Perhaps it's more dangerous getting on a bus in Windsor and the danger is offset by the RAM timings in your rig :thinking:

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I'm still :confused:

 

I believe this is what matters if you call in for an RMA: http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair/products/specs/TWINX1024-4400C25.pdf

 

And, I'm not sure what urban survival techniques and bus etiquette have to do with the original posters question:

 

 

 

Perhaps it's more dangerous getting on a bus in Windsor and the danger is offset by the RAM timings in your rig :thinking:

 

 

C i think were fighting the same fit iagree ..........what iddint agree with is WIREDmy comment s are WIRED ........SORRY in MY BOOKS IS UNACEPTABLE AND WHEN I SAID PC4400 C25 IS BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE IT IS . AND IT IS PERFECT FOR THAT BOARD AND THE NEO2 BOARD CAUSE IWENT THROUGH THE PROBLEM.

I, LOVE RAM,

 

i guess its will always be the same were ever you go

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Dear Sir,

 

The XL modules are only rated to run at DDR400 with a 2/2/2/5 CAS settings, now the 4400C25 are backwards compatible which are rated to run at DDR550 with a 2.5/4/4/8 CAS settings; however our 3200XL are not backwards compatible, since the memory frequency are running higher than the XL.

 

Best regards,

Ram Guy

 

specmike knows Ram Guy about as well as I do, so I'd like his opinion on this statement. I'm not 100% that was sent by RG, it may have been another corsair rep, however the validity of the statement in that email does not change regardless of whom sent it.

 

On the flip side, it does have some characteristics of RG's speaking style, but we've both talked to him and gone "HUH?" once or twice lol. No worries, RG's a good guy and always means well. What I'm trying to say is that when he said "backwards compatible", he may not have meant equal to XL specs, that email is a bit foggy IMHO, but then again, I'm of the personality type that always likes to have it written down in concrete, clear as glass. I know I haven't seen an official statement that spells it out to my satisfaction. I emailed RG about this a day or 2 ago, but I think I sent one too many last week and triggered Corsair's spam filter lol.

 

I'll try to call him direct tomorrow about this. specmike, u mind trying to call him as well to get this clarified, and to see if he got any of my damn emails? I'm going to also use another email address to msg him, see if it goes through.

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Yeah, I'll call him. I need my weekly dose :p:

 

Also, I have a pair of PC4400C2.5 and pair of Rev 1. XLs. If I have time, I'll test this. However, we are madly preparing for an out of town photo and video gig so I may not have the time.

 

L8R, Mike.

 

Kewlness, and congrats on the gig. I emailed him with another email address, hopefully he'll get it.

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I am coming in late, but every expert I check with seems to say: If you overclock use the 4400C25, otherwise use the 3200XL. I am really not sure what that means, however. Is it only the FSB that gets overclocked with the 4400? How does that affect the playing of games? How does it affect a media hub?

 

In case you haven't noticed, I am as green as they come. I did this for a living more than 10 years ago, but I have come back in to build a gaming rig with an ASUS a8nSLI, Zalman 7700 cu Cooler, Asus EN6800 GeForce Ultra (only 1) in a Lian Li Case with a RAID 0 74GB Raptor, Logitech Z-5500 speakers and a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum.

 

I still have not ordered the memory, but it seems like the overwhelming advice is the 4400. Do you guys agree?

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I am running 4 sticks of TwinX 3200 XL with this board even overclocked it an ran prime 95 stable. Running all 4 sticks at 2 2 2 5 at 210 mhz..

 

Id get the 3200XL it is AWSOME performance is out of this world...

 

All I know is 3200XL is SUPER FAST AND SUPER STABLE...

 

my understnding is you can relax timings if you want to overclock this memory but I havnt had to when I messed around with overclocking it...

 

CPU-Z Report

 

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CPU-Z version 1.26.

 

 

CPU(s)

Number of CPUs 1

 

Name AMD Athlon 64 FX-55

Code Name ClawHammer

Specification AMD Athlon 64 FX-55 Processor

Family / Model / Stepping F 7 A

Extended Family / Model F 7

Brand ID 36

Package Socket 939

Core Stepping SH7-CG

Technology 0.13 µ

Supported Instructions Sets MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, x86-64

CPU Clock Speed 2613.3 MHz

Clock multiplier x 13.0

HTT Bus Frequency 201.0 MHz

L1 Data Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size

L1 Instruction Cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size

L2 Cache 1024 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size

L2 Speed 2613.3 MHz (Full)

L2 Location On Chip

L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes

L2 Bus Width 128 bits

 

 

 

Mainboard and chipset

Motherboard manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC.

Motherboard model A8N-SLI DELUXE, 1.XX

BIOS vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD

BIOS revision ASUS A8N-SLI DELUXE ACPI BIOS Revision 1004-001

BIOS release date 01/25/2005

Chipset nVidia nForce4 rev. A3

Southbridge nVidia ID50 rev. A3

Sensor chip FFFF

 

 

 

 

Memory

DRAM Type DDR-SDRAM

DRAM Size 2048 MBytes

DRAM Frequency 201.0 MHz

FSB:DRAM CPU/13.0

CAS# Latency 2.0 clocks

RAS# to CAS# 2 clocks

RAS# Precharge 2 clocks

Cycle Time (TRAS) 5 clocks

Bank Cycle Time (TRC) 11 clocks

DRAM Idle Timer 16 clocks

# of memory modules 4

Module 0 Corsair DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes

Module 1 Corsair DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes

Module 2 Corsair DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes

Module 3 Corsair DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes

 

 

 

Software

Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)

DirectX version 9.0c

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I am running 4 sticks of TwinX 3200 XL with this board even overclocked it an ran prime 95 stable. Running all 4 sticks at 2 2 2 5 at 210 mhz..

 

Id get the 3200XL it is AWSOME performance is out of this world...

 

All I know is 3200XL is SUPER FAST AND SUPER STABLE...

 

my understnding is you can relax timings if you want to overclock this memory but I havnt had to when I messed around with overclocking it...

 

CPU-Z Report

 

 

I'm running some 4400C25 at 290 FSB at 2.5,4,4,8,1T at 1 to 1 memory ratio,i dont think 3200 will get close to that.

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