GT80 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 Hi guys I have problem with temp sensors(H80iGT Cooler Temp and Intel Core i5-4670K Temp) in corsair link software, I tested on Win 10,7 with lasted version of corsair link but problem not solved and checked backplate and tested h80i gt with another motherboard I attached the picture, basically problem in custom curve because not work! Why is so difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT80 Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Anybody have no idea!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red-ray Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 From the above I can only guess. Have you set the Group as the H80iGT Cooler? You need to post a screen image that shows how the H80iGT fan is setup. It should also include the H80iGT fan + pump speeds and all the motherboard sensors. You should also add you PC Specs to your profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT80 Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Yes, The group set to the H80iGT Cooler Temp and also I change it to the Intel Core i5-4670K Temp but anyway custom curve not work Asrock z87 oc formula + 4670k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red-ray Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 With CL 3.2.5742 and the H80iGT you can only use the H80iGT Cooler temp to control the Custom Curve, see http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?p=795986 You need to set lower temperatures to make the fan speed up. The lowest sensible PWM % you should use is 25%, see http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?p=797715 I suspect you should not be able to set the Group for the H80iGT Cooler Temp and wonder if this being allowed is a bug in CL3.2.5742. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT80 Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Why the H80iGT Cooler Temp sensor is very lowest of the Intel Core i5-4670K Temp sensor? I used of the Chill Factor III between CPU(IHS) and Water Cooler(Block), Yes the H80iGT use the H80iGT Cooler temp sensor to control the Custom Curve and is not based on CPU temp sensor BUT sensor of the H80i GT does not raise up as I shown on the previous picture! Maximum will be 30C! My problem is the H80i GT cooler temp sensor Is any Corsair Water cooler specially the H80i GT like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-attack Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 The H80i GT temperature is better known as the water temperature. The fans on the radiator aid in removing heat from the water. They do not cool the CPU directly. The water is the carries the heat from the contact plate to the radiator fins where the heat is released. The amount of water you have the and speed it moves are more influential on your idle and instant load temperatures than fan speed. If you shutdown the pump and blast your fans, you will overheat in a few minutes. However, you can go for quite a while with a flowing water and no fans - at least until you start applying load. If your water temperature is not increasing while you are under load, that's great. It means your system is efficiently removing the heat from the water, or at least faster than it is being added. When this is no longer the case, the water temperature will rise. Water temperature changes are slow -- both up and down. It is not supposed to react to the wild fluctuations of CPU load. It takes some time to get comfortable with the operating temperature range of the water. There is no specific temperature is should be. The low end will be your room ambient on boot that will then become the case ambient temperature once you are up and running. The high end is determined not just by CPU heat, but system waste heat as well. The person with 2 heavy GPUs in SLI will have a different operating temperature than someone using the integrated graphics on their CPU. Case size and design factor as well. You will have to experiment to discover your range. Another approach is to set a flat line for a speed you can tolerate (noise). This can be very useful on rear exhaust port systems, particularly if that is also your only exhaust point in the case. You can slant the tail end of the curve to maximum at something like 50C water temperature. This will give you an audio warning if there is a problem or unexpected high load on CPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT80 Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 Thank you very much @c-attack for your great explanation and @red-ray's I tested and removed the fans and set the h80i gt pump to the lowest rpm and result was this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-attack Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 When you say "remove the fans", I assume you mean you removed them from the H80i GT Cooler group. That removed the variable (water temperature) their speed is dependent on and now they are un-linked, thus the zero speed. Well, there is your low pump speed, no fans scenario and you aren't overheating. However, I wouldn't try to minimize the pump speed, unless absolutely necessary. The quiet mode speed should make the pump inaudible at desktop levels. The fans are something else. No reason to use more fan speed than necessary, however if the unit is the rear exhaust slot and you don't have any other exhaust fans, you will need to keep a more constant speed under any kind of CPU or GPU load to keep the case temps from getting toasty. You need the fans and the pump in the H80iGT Cooler Temperature group. This makes those devices adjust their speed based on the water temperature. You can then adjust the fan vs water temperature curve to something that fits your needs. I no longer use LINK, but you should be able to shortcut to that by right-clicking the fan. A small right side bar will pop-up with the necessary tools. You can also set fixed speeds from that menu. When I ran an H80i in the rear slot, I found saving two profiles -- one quiet mode setting for desktop and one "fixed fan speed" for gaming to be more useful than trying to predict my dynamic CPU and GPU loads. In that set-up, more exhaust is just better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT80 Posted January 19, 2016 Author Share Posted January 19, 2016 I set the pump and fans from the bios because Corsair link based on Water Temp and isn't based on CPU Temp and move in slowly, I think better is developers put the two options in corsair link software, once based on water temp and another based on CPU Temp for Custom Curve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-attack Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 If you are going to run the pump and fans from their own motherboard header or fan controller, then you don't need LINK to monitor or control. Set it not run on start-up, but leave it installed so you can launch-change LED color-quit. If you are not using LINK, it can only cause conflicts with other programs. If you are trying to manipulate the fan speed while they are plugged into the pump block, it won't work. If you are not comfortable with the water temperature control, that's fine, but it still doesn't change how it works. Your motherboard likely uses something other than CPU core temps for control so you will need to make some adjustments as well. My Asus substantially under-values CPU temps, but it is possible to make rough estimations and create a functional system. ASRock may be different. I still don't know how your system is set-up, but once again if this is the rear exhaust you find you need an alternative plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT80 Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share Posted January 20, 2016 Are you saying fan's to be connected directly on motherboard? Yes i wanna manipulate the fan speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-attack Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Yes, if you want to run the fans based on CPU temperature on that GTX model, you will need to use something else for control. The Astek GTX models do not have that ability (at this time). When the fans are plugged into the pump block, they can only respond to the firmware or LINK's commands. BIOS controls won't work. The fans need their own header, but you can run them on a splitter. In the BIOS set that header to be CPU temperature dependent. The connector from the pump needs it's own header. Set that one to 12v, 100%, Full Speed, or however you motherboard relates maximum speed. I still think you should give the LINK system a trial run. Running from CPU temps likely will make the fans rev up and down more than necessary. As you've seen, you can completely cripple the system and it doesn't automatically overheat. There isn't a danger to running from water temp. When there is a serious or prolonged load, the water temperature will rise as well. Also, you still haven't confirmed how the H80iGT is set-up inside your system. Is it intake? Exhausting out the rear slot? Do you have other exhaust fans? GPU configuration? All of these things will have an impact on it's performance. If you have it mounted in the rear slot above the GPU, neither water curve or CPU temp dependent is best way to control it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT80 Posted January 20, 2016 Author Share Posted January 20, 2016 This is my system and I removed the side doors I using of the Integrated graphic but I will buy one the graphic card :roll: Many thanks about your explanation that was excellent Now my fan's are directly connected to mb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-attack Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 As long as you are using the integrated GPU in the chip, there is no need to run high fixed fan speeds. You can use it as you are doing linked to CPU temperature. That may change when you add the discrete GPU, but again it will depend on how hot a card you choose and how much load you put on the GPU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT80 Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 I need to high speed of fan's and also pump because I overclocking 4670k to this reason I was to finding a way for Custom Curve and finally were customized with bios Asrock z87 oc formula not by corsair link software, corsair link goods for changing the color led By the H80i GT I can getting the 4.7GHz cores Notice: This core i5 4670k is the low voltage and my first using(newbie) of corsair water cooler, already I had the another brand of water cooler and not needed to any program and worked fine by bios Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-attack Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 The higher flat fan speed for the H80i when in the rear slot is not for the benefit of the CPU, but for the secondary function of the fan as an exhaust port. When you add a discrete GPU, there will be more heat to remove from the system when GPU loads are present. But in the meantime or if there are minimal GPU loads, running the H80i from water temperature or CPU temperature will be fine and the CPU overclock should not be an issue for control. Running the radiator fans based on water temperature is more efficient and is likely to keep your average fan speed lower compared to running on CPU temperature. However, it does require a water temp sensor and a software program that can interpret it. Not all coolers come with these features. My H110 does not and I love it all the same. Not all fan configurations benefit from water temperature based fan speed. If your radiator is the main exhaust point in the system, you may need a more constant, high fan speed, regardless of CPU load. However, since you don't have a lot on internal heat right now, you can run the cooler anyway you want and it should work well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT80 Posted January 21, 2016 Author Share Posted January 21, 2016 Thank you for guidance and gave your time to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT80 Posted January 25, 2016 Author Share Posted January 25, 2016 Indeed I forgot this question, how much max of the pump rpm and the fan rpm for set? Best Regard's, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-attack Posted January 25, 2016 Share Posted January 25, 2016 I would run the pump as fast as I could stand. Increased water flow helps in all conditions. I have not used the new H80i GT so I don't really have a feel for the pump volume. The pump my older H80i was inaudible. However, if the highest setting is too loud, take it down to the mid level. The fans are a little different. In terms of cooling, they remove heat from the water, so ignoring other considerations, they only need to run over minimum when the CPU is under continual or repeated load. So for now, run the fans as slow as possible unless you are going to run some sort of render or other job that will that takes some time to complete. The quiet preset should be just fine. The situation will change when you add a discrete GPU and you'll need those GT fans to double as exhaust movers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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