ducky87 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 80c seems high (prime95 10 minutes). Just bought the PC this week. My first experience with water cooling. I can see the white and black sticker on the fan at the back of the case. Does this mean the fan is exhausting air? Would it be better in my setup to reverse the fan and intake air? My next step is to open up the case and see if the H60 is securely screwed in and making good contact with the cpu. What would be a reasonable temp to expect in my situation? I was expecting load temps in the 50s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameyscott Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 A 4690k as AVX2 instructions, so when under auto settings (default settings) You're core voltage is going to go up .1v which is enough to see temps like that on "stock" settings with the additional heat of Prime95. I would suggest testing with something that is less intensive and doesn't use AVX2 Instructions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducky87 Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 A 4690k as AVX2 instructions, so when under auto settings (default settings) You're core voltage is going to go up .1v which is enough to see temps like that on "stock" settings with the additional heat of Prime95. I would suggest testing with something that is less intensive and doesn't use AVX2 Instructions. How about OCCT? I played Watch Dogs last night and the cpu temps got up to 62c. That's higher than I would expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick779 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 A 4690k as AVX2 instructions, so when under auto settings (default settings) You're core voltage is going to go up .1v which is enough to see temps like that on "stock" settings with the additional heat of Prime95. I would suggest testing with something that is less intensive and doesn't use AVX2 Instructions. This is complete garbage. My 4670k at 4.2ghz on an h60 with stock crappy thermal compound hit 84c in p95 w/avx at the 10 minute mark. Theres something definately wrong with your setup. Make sure your pump is getting a flat 12v and not getting throttled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytnyt Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 This is complete garbage. My 4670k at 4.2ghz on an h60 with stock crappy thermal compound hit 84c in p95 w/avx at the 10 minute mark. Theres something definately wrong with your setup. Make sure your pump is getting a flat 12v and not getting throttled. disagree but please dont insult,in many ways he is correct but look at it this way,,it depends on how the system is setup all the way down to paste application plus no 2 cpu's will perform the same even if their the same model cpu... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODedAssault Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 This is complete garbage. My 4670k at 4.2ghz on an h60 with stock crappy thermal compound hit 84c in p95 w/avx at the 10 minute mark. Theres something definately wrong with your setup. Make sure your pump is getting a flat 12v and not getting throttled. Not necessarily true. Don't jump to conclusions. All cpu are diff including temp wise. Plus his stock voltage could be higher than your overclocked voltage. You don't know his setup so please don't speak up telling him there is something wrong. Edit: wytnyt beat me to it lol. OP what is your stock voltage ? Under load of course. Read with cpuz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducky87 Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 Not necessarily true. Don't jump to conclusions. All cpu are diff including temp wise. Plus his stock voltage could be higher than your overclocked voltage. You don't know his setup so please don't speak up telling him there is something wrong. Edit: wytnyt beat me to it lol. OP what is your stock voltage ? Under load of course. Read with cpuz. I tried to install cpuz and got error messages. So I can't tell you the stock voltage. But the computer is brand new from the store without overclocking. So it should be default voltage. Also, I checked the h60 screws and they were fully tightened. So it appears the heatsink is making good contact with the cpu. So, is my H60 unit likely to be defective? Because those load temps just don't make sense. The stock cooler would run in the mid 70s. Should I be in contact with Corsair tech support at this point for a replacement unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODedAssault Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Dont download the setup utility for cpuz just download the standalone launcher. Also there is no "default" voltage across all cpus every cpu is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducky87 Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 Dont download the setup utility for cpuz just download the standalone launcher. Also there is no "default" voltage across all cpus every cpu is different. I managed to get cpuz running but the voltage field is grayed out and blank. Is there another tool I can use to get this info? Something that is easier to figure out how to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODedAssault Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 R u sure u have latest version of cpuz. You can prob use hw monitor as well. Prob need newest version as well since ur on x97. I have x97 rig as well n cpuz works fine. Not gigabyte tho. I had issue with gigabyte where on "optimized defaults" in bios is severely overvolted and my 4770k boosted to 4.1 and 1.25v. Could be the issue you are having. Try setting actual default. That's not what it's called exactly but not optimized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducky87 Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 Voltage is 1.031v under load. This is with OCCT running linpack. Aside: cpuz wasn't working previously because I had installed it with a user acct. Reinstalled with admin and works fine, shows voltage. I was able to get the load temp down to around 75c with a couple changes: switched cpu fan to intake (PC builder had set to exhaust), and increased power to pump header to max. Temp still seems high though. Another thing I read about is the H60 doesn't have a good seal on thin motherboards. Some folks have been adding washers to the backplate in order to create a tight seal between the H60 and cpu. Worth a try? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODedAssault Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Easy way to tell if pump is not tight to cpu is push down on the pump with your fingers and see if temps go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducky87 Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Easy way to tell if pump is not tight to cpu is push down on the pump with your fingers and see if temps go down. No change in temps. Still, I am planning to remove the heatsink and check to see if the thermal paste shows any signs of uneven pressure. Also, I asked Corsair tech support if I should try the washer method and am still waiting to hear back. Any opinions on the washer method? Also, any opinions on normal load temps (prime 95 or occt linpack) at stock speeds? 74c must be too high because I found evidence that this is the load temp with the stock cooler. Obviously the H60 cooling performance should blow away the stock cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytnyt Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 actually a h60 is entry level into water cooling and cooling performance is like a medium air cooler so if your temps are what your air did then temp is likely accurate but a paste check would be a good idea... the washer scenario will only help if the hydro will not get snug and the majority of m/b's will not need washers,only a couple m/b's thats thinner than standard thickness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODedAssault Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Mid 70s is normal for that cooler n that cpu. I'd put money on it that prime95 with avx would actually make any 4670k, 4770k, 4690k, or 4790k at least break 90 if not overheat and throttle. Cpu are not meant for this type of load. If it was intel would ship a lot better coolers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducky87 Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share Posted August 24, 2014 http://www.digitalstormonline.com/unlocked/intel-devils-canyon-i5-4690k-review-and-overclocking-benchmarks-idnum301/ According to this, 74c is normal for the 4690k with the stock cooler at load. Why should the H60 have the same cooling performance as the stock cooler? They used linx, but I think the results should be close to OCCT which is what I used to stress test the cpu. Edit: I just ran linx and got 86c under load. So now I am more convinced my H60 is not operating properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODedAssault Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 There nothing wrong with it. It's mid range cooler with a very hot running cpu. Put ur stock cooler on n run linx if u don't believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick779 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 There nothing wrong with it. It's mid range cooler with a very hot running cpu. Put ur stock cooler on n run linx if u don't believe me. my 4670k could hit 4.3ghz @ 1.25v on an h60 and hit 90c after 10 minutes on prime with AVX small FFT. Idle was around 28-30c and load was in the 65c range. So you have not a clue what youre talking about. To the OP make sure the pump isnt being throttled by a controller or the mobo, the pump needs to always run at 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOODedAssault Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I have not a clue what I'm talking about hahaha. He's maxing at 86 in linx. Wtf does that have to do with ur cpu. EVERY cpu is different. He could have a bad paste job between cpu and ihs. Go look around the forums n say I don't know what I'm talking about. If op thinks it's not working correctly then rma it. I'm sure corsair will oblige. I'd first try putting stock cooler back on tho. I bet it performs way worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ducky87 Posted August 29, 2014 Author Share Posted August 29, 2014 Update: I talked to Corsair tech support on the phone earlier this week. They confirmed that an H60 on a 4690k at stock speeds should top out at around 55c when loaded using OCCT or something similar. They also said the washer method was worth a try (use plastic or rubber, not metal). And they said if that did not work I could RMA the unit. The other possible problems they mentioned were that the coolant level could be too low or there could be a blockage in the system somewhere. Anyway, I purchased 1/8" neoprene washers from Home Depot and installed them behind the backplate. Max temps under OCCT dropped to 55c. Problem solved. I knew something was wrong as soon as I removed the h60. Only half of the cpu had thermal paste on it. Which meant half of the heatsink was not in contact with the cpu. I can post pictures that better explain the problem and solution if someone can tell me how to do that in this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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