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I see so many people saying how Corsair's fans are the worst. They always say they're loud and don't blow any air. I think that's a load of BS. What do you guys think of them?

 

people want absolutely quiet fans but with the power to push air thru rads enough to keep things cool under a hard load...which simply do not exist...

unfortunately these are the ones that just dont understand the basic fundamentals regarding fans...

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personally, i had 4 of the stock sp120l fans with my 100i and they worked fine,

 

yes software will never be able to accurately detect my wishes, in the same way as a fan controller can, but the fan controller will never understand that different fans need to act different ways under different conditions

 

depending in your case, placement, direction and tons more stuff, a fan may or may not work properly for you. that is why there are different manufacturers.

 

for a SP fan with reasonable sound levels, corsairs are very good

 

imo

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I think Corsair Fans are awesome. Corsair is one of the best products And i will be buying more from them. Ya people don't look at the facts as for me i was one of them people lol. Until my friend told me "What u want your PC to be freezing" its not going to be like that never. I agreed with him and now I'm just using my PC and having fun
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Tbh I swear by my Noctua NF-F12 fans, which are pretty much the quiet fans that push enough air through described above as not existing. In comparison to the stock fans they're roughly the same for cooling if the stocks were on ~2000 rpm, but sound like stocks on 900 rpm. Of course, they're not cheap.

 

Corsair stock fans aren't bad but if you're the type of person who wants a closed loop cooling block in the first place, the ratio of cooling to noise probably isn't what you're after. Still, you get what you pay for.

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I used cougar vortex in both the 120mm and 140mm size, Gentle Typhoons, Noise Blockers, etc. I found that while the AF and SP fans did generate a little more noise, they also pushed a noticeably higher amount of air (plus they look way better).

 

I think wytnyt said it best: People want a perfect world of silence and performance and that just doesn't exist

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people want absolutely quiet fans but with the power to push air thru rads enough to keep things cool under a hard load...which simply do not exist...

unfortunately these are the ones that just dont understand the basic fundamentals regarding fans...

 

Stupid laws of physics! :cool:

 

Basically, the higher the turbulance, the higher the sound volume. This is because sound is actually air movement, which also coincides with what fans do (move air). If a fan is quiet, it's also not moving air very forcefully, which is antithetical to what is necessary for airflow through radiators, thus loud fans tend to equal high force. Go physics!

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I am using the stock H100i fans plugged directly into my motherboard. The only way I was ever able to even hear them at all was to run AIDA64 FPU and GPU stress test and even then the fans got only up to 1700 RPM or so and were only faintly audible. The CPU was at 70 or so which I am totally happy with for that stress test. Prime 95 was much less than that (both RPM-wise and temperature). Under normal use (gaming) I never ever hear the H100i fans and the CPU rarely goes over 55.
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Stupid laws of physics! :cool:

 

Basically, the higher the turbulance, the higher the sound volume. This is because sound is actually air movement, which also coincides with what fans do (move air). If a fan is quiet, it's also not moving air very forcefully, which is antithetical to what is necessary for airflow through radiators, thus loud fans tend to equal high force. Go physics!

 

It's not quite that straightforward - while moving air creates noise and there's nothing anyone can do about that, many fan designs do not focus the air flow as tightly as possible, and hence need to push air faster to make up for that inefficiency, which in turn makes more noise.

 

Of course the fans that do focus airflow more tightly (such as Noctuas) require more expensive motors and more complicated design to do it. That's how they provide equivalent cooling at lower speeds.

 

It's swings and roundabouts. You can have very quiet fans that offer good cooling, it's just you'll find yourself spending a lot more. If one's concern is cash then realistically stock fans offer the best bang for the buck.

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Of course the fans that do focus airflow more tightly (such as Noctuas) require more expensive motors and more complicated design to do it. That's how they provide equivalent cooling at lower speeds.

 

It's swings and roundabouts. You can have very quiet fans that offer good cooling, it's just you'll find yourself spending a lot more. If one's concern is cash then realistically stock fans offer the best bang for the buck.

 

if noctuas are so good,,why is the static pressure so low?

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They're hardly the best performing fans on the market. If you want a premium product there are a variety of better choices. But for around $15 each (or even cheaper on sale, or even cheaper for the LED ones), they're pretty darn good, and the swappable rings are an excellent idea that provides a good looking fan that can match your build's colour, and you can paint/dye them if red/white/blue doesn't work for your rig. I'd like to use Noctuas or SWiF2s or Cougars, but prosthetic limb brown, neon green and bright orange just don't match the majority of PCs.

 

if noctuas are so good,,why is the static pressure so low?

 

According to manufacturer claims the NF-F12s have 2.61mm H2O at 1500RPM, SP120 Quiets have 1.29mm H2O at 1450RPM, Cougar Vortex have 2.2mm H2O at 1500RPM, Noiseblocker PL2s have 1.27mm H2O at 1400RPM, Gentle Typhoons have 1.3mm H2O at 1450RPM and Silverstone AP121s have 1.71mm of H2O at 1500RPM. Looks like the Noctua fans are on top to me, and there may be some inflation in their claims, but you'd expect more than just Noctua to be doing it if that was the case.

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According to manufacturer claims the NF-F12s have 2.61mm H2O at 1500RPM, SP120 Quiets have 1.29mm H2O at 1450RPM, Cougar Vortex have 2.2mm H2O at 1500RPM, Noiseblocker PL2s have 1.27mm H2O at 1400RPM, Gentle Typhoons have 1.3mm H2O at 1450RPM and Silverstone AP121s have 1.71mm of H2O at 1500RPM. Looks like the Noctua fans are on top to me, and there may be some inflation in their claims, but you'd expect more than just Noctua to be doing it if that was the case.

 

actually your quoting corsairs lesser sp fans,,actually the stock hydro fans have 4.mm sp so their far higher than any others

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actually your quoting corsairs lesser sp fans,,actually the stock hydro fans have 4.mm sp so their far higher than any others

 

3.1mm at 2350RPM according to Corsair's website. The problem is the 2350RPM part. They're a lot noisier than any of the fans I listed. I'm trying to compare like with like, so I selected a variety that spin at around 1500RPM.

 

For higher RPM fans you can look at something like a Grand Flex with 3.2mm at 2000RPM, or 4.55mm at 2500RPM or the Noiseblocker XLPs which hit 2.8mm at 2000RPM. Corsair's SPs looks a whole lot better compared to these offerings. Which means the Quiet editions, for the SP series at least, were probably a bit of an afterthought. If you can handle the noise then they're nice, but they're not for me. Quietness is king so long as the fan still offers solid performance. Aesthetics fit in there somewhere too, and that means I would love Nocuta if it weren't for them being the same colour as prosthetic limbs.

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Pretty much. Ultimately one always has to compromise between sound and cooling somewhere down the line, but stuff like noctua fans offer a very favourable balance between decent cooling and very quiet running.

 

Word is right in that they have a weird colour scheme (personally it reminds me of tiramisu). I guess that means more to some than others - personally the colour scheme of a set of fans I can't see means less than the fact that my temps are sticking below 55C and I can't hear the fans at all through my headphones, but I can easily see how someone who's got a colour scheme going for their box would question them. It's a shame they don't do other colour schemes.

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Pretty much. Ultimately one always has to compromise between sound and cooling somewhere down the line, but stuff like noctua fans offer a very favourable balance between decent cooling and very quiet running.

 

Word is right in that they have a weird colour scheme (personally it reminds me of tiramisu). I guess that means more to some than others - personally the colour scheme of a set of fans I can't see means less than the fact that my temps are sticking below 55C and I can't hear the fans at all through my headphones, but I can easily see how someone who's got a colour scheme going for their box would question them. It's a shame they don't do other colour schemes.

 

They've actually done two new colour schemes. One is two shades or grey, which is better, but still pretty ugly. It's for their budget range of fans, which are basically a no-nonsense fan. They don't come with any rubber silencers, low noise cables or anything like that. You have to choose between a P14 and the S12 though, which is disappointing.

 

They also have their Industrial series in black with the little brown rubber silencers, which I don't mind. These fans look pretty decent. But they're even more expensive than regular Noctuas, the selection of models is limited, albeit better than the budget Redux series, and they're all high RPM models not specifically intended for use in personal PCs (although depending on how well they undervolt the 2000RPM models could work well with a fan controller).

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