zaptrem Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Hello everyone! Recently I installed an H100I in my case to go with my new motherboard and CPU (4770k and asus z97-a) and I have been getting crazy temps. Idle: 4770K: 40c H100i Temp: 30.2 Load: 4770k: 75c H100i Temp: 34c Currently I am using a push-pull configuration with the stock fans and fans that the radiator replaced in the case. I have a few guesses on how to fix it and want to ask you guys before I put the money in. 1. Stock fans are whack: They seem to have the same RPM, but they may not have the same static pressure or cfm (not a fan geek) I may buy a second set of the fans that came with it and replace the case fans there now. Is this even worth it? Is push pull that much better than pull? 2. Something is wrong with how I mounted it: I may have screwed something onto the motherboard wrong or brushed the pre-applied thermal paste. In this case, I would buy some new thermal paste to replace the stock (only have 3 year old arctic silver 5 on me right now, probably gone bad) 3. It is in need of RMA: Unlikely, but we cant rule it out with this one. What do you think? I probably want to get this figured out by late Wednesday so I can have whatever is needed shipped with Amazon Prime by Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytnyt Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 its not likely a faulty cooler,you seem unsure if you messed up so chances are you did;):,,,it happens 2 most likely causes would be paste or backplate make sure the 2 little cutouts on 2 legs on the backplate are facing up and recheck paste even so even a mild oc could reach your loaded temps on a 4770 as their hot chips... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaptrem Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 its not likely a faulty cooler,you seem unsure if you messed up so chances are you did;):,,,it happens 2 most likely causes would be paste or backplate make sure the 2 little cutouts on 2 legs on the backplate are facing up and recheck paste even so even a mild oc could reach your loaded temps on a 4770 as their hot chips... I am not sure what cutouts you are talking about, can I have a picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytnyt Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I am not sure what cutouts you are talking about, can I have a picture? here it is as it should be installed... here it is http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image/akg/water_cooling/H80i/backplate_sm.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaptrem Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 here it is as it should be installed... http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image/akg/water_cooling/H80i/backplate_sm.jpg I don't see any cut outs... Mind circling them with paint or something? Thanks for the help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaptrem Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share Posted May 15, 2014 Can anyone help with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytnyt Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Can anyone help with this? i posted a pic of the backplate cutouts called back.jpg in my previous post,,just click on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaptrem Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 i posted a pic of the backplate cutouts called back.jpg in my previous post,,just click on it... Thanks! Ill check on this when I get home from work tomorrow. Do you think the push pull config with different fans could be causing anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytnyt Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Thanks! Ill check on this when I get home from work tomorrow. Do you think the push pull config with different fans could be causing anything? yes they can if their not high static fans,,fans need horse power to move air thru rads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaptrem Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share Posted May 16, 2014 i posted a pic of the backplate cutouts called back.jpg in my previous post,,just click on it... Does this look right? http://imgur.com/CiBApaq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr45hc4nm4n Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Does this look right? http://imgur.com/CiBApaq No, that is not right. Look at the cut outs on the left of the pic. They need to be facing UP, not to the left. Look at the picture wytnyt posted again, the one that is attached and look for what is circled in red. Reinstall and try again. Although, my i7 930 has the exact same temps (mild oc to 3.8) 40c idle (30.1 water temp) and 75 load (water temp around 35). This was with the factory paste. Reseated with AS5 and temps are now 40 idle, 68 under load, same OC (Same water temps). Not sure if i should reseat one more time. Maybe i didnt use enough AS5 (rice sized piece in the middle). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaptrem Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share Posted May 17, 2014 No, that is not right. Look at the cut outs on the left of the pic. They need to be facing UP, not to the left. Look at the picture wytnyt posted again, the one that is attached and look for what is circled in red. Reinstall and try again. Although, my i7 930 has the exact same temps (mild oc to 3.8) 40c idle (30.1 water temp) and 75 load (water temp around 35). This was with the factory paste. Reseated with AS5 and temps are now 40 idle, 68 under load, same OC (Same water temps). Not sure if i should reseat one more time. Maybe i didnt use enough AS5 (rice sized piece in the middle). Oh, no. My temps are WAY worse now. If I let it run, it can get up to above 90c and crash, the water temps go up and up and up, but do not go down as fast as I would expect when I turn things off. (Still have not fixed the back plate yet, though. Will update later today once I feel awake enough to touch that stuff.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytnyt Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Does this look right? http://imgur.com/CiBApaq theres your problem,once properly positioned you will see much better temps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaptrem Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share Posted May 17, 2014 theres your problem,once properly positioned you will see much better temps... New idle: 42c New Load: ~80c (Crashed before it could get higher) Could it be the fans (look at early posts)? This is driving me insane! I pay around triple the money for something that is getting WORSE temps than the 212 evo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytnyt Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 weak fans will cause temps to creep up but not within a short time are you now over clocking or have before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaptrem Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share Posted May 17, 2014 weak fans will cause temps to creep up but not within a short time are you now over clocking or have before? I tried overclocking before I turned the fans around (they were fighting each other before) And yes, the the temp starts at around 65 then it goes up slowly to 80 where it crashes. Also, the water temperature creeps up with it. EDIT: Be back in 20 minutes or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaptrem Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share Posted May 17, 2014 I tried overclocking before I turned the fans around (they were fighting each other before) And yes, the the temp starts at around 65 then it goes up slowly to 80 where it crashes. Also, the water temperature creeps up with it. EDIT: Be back in 20 minutes or so. Back, took longer than I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytnyt Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Back, took longer than I thought. and? any success? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaptrem Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share Posted May 17, 2014 and? any success? I stopped working on it to go out for lunch. My last post with the temps is where I am. No oc, fixed the back plate and put on some AS5, and still no good temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytnyt Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 its looking like a bad paste covering or a voltage setting still set from the oc,,thats why using something like aisuite is a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaptrem Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share Posted May 17, 2014 its looking like a bad paste covering or a voltage setting still set from the oc,,thats why using something like aisuite is a bad idea. Yep, got rid of the fans, and its working around 70c load at a nice overclock! Voltage - 1.250 Sound normal? Or should I be getting better temps. Also, can I go higher than 70c and still get a good lifetime on the cpu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytnyt Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 i couldnt say till i know what your clocked at if 70c is good;): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaptrem Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share Posted May 17, 2014 i couldnt say till i know what your clocked at if 70c is good;): Cores 1-2 are at 4.4 Cores 3-4 are at 4.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wytnyt Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 Cores 1-2 are at 4.4 Cores 3-4 are at 4.3 ?,,ive never seen anyone clock cores individually at any rate 4.3 or 4 at 70c for a 4770 is very good.,,you can run your temps ~80c and still be ok as theres still a throttling feature for high temps looks like things are finally working ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaptrem Posted May 18, 2014 Author Share Posted May 18, 2014 ?,,ive never seen anyone clock cores individually at any rate 4.3 or 4 at 70c for a 4770 is very good.,,you can run your temps ~80c and still be ok as theres still a throttling feature for high temps looks like things are finally working ok... Thanks! Clocking cores individually lets you get the MOST performance for a voltage. I targeted getting no higher than 70c as I read somewhere that's where you want to stop if you want a normal lifetime on your CPU. Do you think I can get the same life time if I let it go to 80c? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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