AndreaCmmarata Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Hey folks! I have a small question I hope you can help me with. I've recently bought a Corsair 32Gb DD4 3000 MHz kit, but my motherboard (Asus Z170-DELUXE) see each DIMM as 2133 MHz instead of 3000 MHz. However, under the information section, it's reported that I have 32GB DD4 3000 MHz memory installed. Now, it's this the expected configuration or I should see each DIMM at 3000 MHz? Just want to make sure Amazon sent me the right kit I paid for. Thank you guys! for any help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red-ray Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I suspect you may not enabled/selected XMP in the BIOS and need to do this. I am not 100% sure what the BIOS is reporting and suspect the 2133MHz is the maximum non XMP data rate. I would know more if you posted the initial + [sPD] screens from my SIV utility. I suspect SIV will report similar to as below. BTW do you already have a GTX 1080? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Technobeard Posted May 28, 2016 Administrators Share Posted May 28, 2016 It looks fine. The memory line says 3000 MHz. The lower lines look like the SPD's setting, the default setting in otherwords. You can run CPU-Z and look at the MEMORY tab to see the actual setting. Or, you can read your motherboard's manual to be 100% sure as to what each line in the BIOS readout means. As for Amazon, if the part number on the memory label matches your order, you have the right memory kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaCmmarata Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 I suspect you may not enabled/selected XMP in the BIOS and need to do this. I am not 100% sure what the BIOS is reporting and suspect the 2133MHz is the maximum non XMP data rate. I would know more if you posted the initial + [sPD] screens from my SIV utility. BTW do you already have a GTX 1080? Thanks for your prompt answer. The XMP profile is selected correctly. It was showing something different at first. Here's a SIV screenshot: It reports 2.94GHz Dual DDR4 RAM so I suppose it is correct. About my GXT 1080: I've placed my order and waiting to be delivered home in the next few days. My brand new PC build is just missing a dedicated Video Card and I'm getting crazy waiting for it! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaCmmarata Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 It looks fine. The memory line says 3000 MHz. The lower lines look like the SPD's setting, the default setting in otherwords. You can run CPU-Z and look at the MEMORY tab to see the actual setting. Or, you can read your motherboard's manual to be 100% sure as to what each line in the BIOS readout means. As for Amazon, if the part number on the memory label matches your order, you have the right memory kit. Uhmmm...Here's the CPU-Z Screen: 1466.0 Mhz DRAM Frequency... Do you think there's something wrong here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red-ray Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 It reports 2.94GHz Dual DDR4 RAM so I suppose it is correct. About my GXT 1080: I've placed my order and waiting to be delivered home in the next few days. My brand new PC build is just missing a dedicated Video Card and I'm getting crazy waiting for it! ;) To me the memory looks to be as it should be.I would expect the 1466.0 MHz that CPUZ reports to be closer to 1500.00 MHz but this is the same as the 2.94 GHz SIV reports. Your CLK:DRAM ratio is 3:44 rather than 1:15 of as it is on the other system and this is why it's only 1466 MHz. What does Menu->Hardware->SPD Summary report?Once you get the GTX 1080 it would be great if you posted screen shots of the SIV Menu->Machine->GPU Info + Menu->Machine->GPU CUDA panels to the http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140665 thread so I can check SIV reports it correctly and if needed fix things.I have just spotted the Pump speed is 840 RPM which is much slower than I would expect. What cooler is it and have you disabled Q-Fan control for the CPU Fan header in the BIOS?The cooler fan speed is also 0 RPM when I assume the fans are spinning. What does Menu->Tools->Link Fans report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaCmmarata Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 To me the memory looks to be as it should be.I would expect the 1466.0 MHz that CPUZ reports to be closer to 1500.00 MHz but this is the same as the 2.94 GHz SIV reports. Your CLK:DRAM is 3:44 rather than 1:15 of as it is on the other system and this is why it's only 1466 MHz. What does Menu->Hardware->SPD Summary report?Once you get the GTX 1080 it would be great if you posted a screen shot of the SIV Menu->Hardware->GPU Info panel to the http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=140665 thread so I can check SIV reports it correctly and if needed fix things.I have just spotted the Pump speed is 840 RPM which is much slower than I would expect. What cooler is it and have you disabled Q-Fan control for the CPU Fan header in the BIOS?The cooler fan speed is also 0 RPM when I assume the fans are spinning. What does Menu->Tools->Link Fans report? Thanks for your answer. I'm using the Corsair H100i V2 Pump and, as far as I know, I haven't disabled the Q_Fan Control for the CPU Fan header in the bios. Does this screen tells you more of what's going on? Lastly, I will definitively share a SIV screen as soon as I'll get my GXT 1080. Thanks for your help. I appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red-ray Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I haven't disabled the Q_Fan Control for the CPU Fan header in the bios. You should/need to then. After doing this post a new [Link Fans]. I just got a new 5.09 screen shot for the other system which shows the CLK:DRAM ratio as 1:15. The owner just enabled XMP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaCmmarata Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 You should/need to then. After doing this post a new [Link Fans]. Yep, definitively a different situation now :biggrin: I've also double checked the XMP profile and, for some reason, the selected one was not the supposed to, so the DRAM issue should be fixed as well now. Thanks again for your help guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red-ray Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Yep, definitively a different situation now :biggrin: As far as I can tell all is now 100% as it should be. Please satisfy my curiosity and post the Menu->Hardware->SPD Summary screen shot. Thank you for offering to post the GTX 1080 information and I look forward to seeing how SIV does. I suspect it might be a good idea to use SIV 5.10 Beta-29 or later as it will have the GTX 1080 descriptions in the data files. I have just added them so will upload it shortly. :biggrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaCmmarata Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 As far as I can tell all is now 100% as it should be. Please satisfy my curiosity and post the Menu->Hardware->SPD Summary screen shot. Thank you for offering to post the GTX 1080 information and I look forward to seeing how SIV does. I suspect it might be a good idea to use SIV 5.10 Beta-21 or later as it will have the GTX 1080 descriptions in the data files. I have just added them... :biggrin: [y:\nVidia\DisplayDriver\368.25\Win8_WinVista_Win7_64\International\Display.Driver\nvdmi.inf] A 10DE:1B80:1028:068B [GeForce GTX 1080] [y:\nVidia\DisplayDriver\368.25\Win8_WinVista_Win7_64\International\Display.Driver\nv_dispi.inf] A 10DE:1B80 [GeForce GTX 1080] %pcidevs - 13,428 found within y:\nVidia %pcidevs - 100,189 written to D:\SIV\DEV\pcidevs.187 Date 2016-05-28 Version 187 %pcidevs - 77 written to D:\SIV\DEV\pcidevs.upd Date 2016-05-28 Version 187 %pcidevs - 13,428 found in total, 77 added, 0 updated, 2,711 duplicates, 0 ignored total is now 100,189 Sure, here's the SPD Summary screen shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red-ray Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 Sure, here's the SPD Summary screen shot. Thank you. I was wondering if they reported MTS as present and they do :sunglasse BTW for W10 it would be good if you specified the build number in your PC specs as TH1, TH2 and all the RS1s are rather different. I just spotted you have an HX750i PSU and SIV did not report it. Is the USB cable connected? What does [uSB Bus] report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaCmmarata Posted May 28, 2016 Author Share Posted May 28, 2016 Thank you. I was wondering if they reported MTS as present and they do :sunglasse BTW for W10 it would be good if you specified the build number in your PC specs as TH1, TH2 and all the RS1s are rather different. I just spotted you have an HX750i PSU and SIV did not report it. Is the USB cable connected? What does [uSB Bus] report? You are right, forgot to include those info. Just updated the W10 specs. Correct! I have an HX750I PSU which is actually not plugged to any motherboard USB connector because I actually have only two, and both of them are already in use: 1. Connected to the H100i V2 Pump. 2. Connected to the ATX Graphite 780T I/O Panel. There's any other way I can have it connect to the motherboard? I do also have a couple of more doubts I hope you can help me with because, looking at your answers, I definitively see you are a true expert: 1. I've switched on the motherboard EZ_XMP switch to overclock the installed DIMMs. Was that a good choice? 2. I've set the motherboard TPU switch to TPU_II (water cooling) since I'm using the H100i V2 Pump. Is this ok? 3. The H100i V2 Pump is plugged to the motherboard though the CPU_FAN connector. Is this ok or I should have used the W_PUMP connector? Thank you again for any input!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red-ray Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 There are two different solutions to not enough USB2 headers, see http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?p=759585. I need both as I have rather a lot of CL hardware. I don't have an ASUS Z170-Deluxe so don't really know what the best BIOS options are. I know the owner of the other ASUS Z170-Deluxe was looking at this thread, so maybe he will know. I feel it's best to use the CPU Fan header as the W_PUMP speed is reported via EC and CL4 will not report it, see http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?p=805421. If you look at Menu->Hardware->Cooling Status SIV reports it as 7 SYS Pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-attack Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 1. XMP is a one click overclock for your memory. Unlike the TPU setting below, it is possible to over-reach on your frequency. I can buy a 4200 MHz kit. That doesn't mean my system can run it. If you you enabled XMP, the system booted, and you appear otherwise stable... great. Leave it alone. If this changes, manually set your memory frequency in the BIOS, then set the voltages farther down. Finally set the first four primary timings in the DRAM settings from the AI Tweaker section in the BIOS. In my experience on the Asus DDR4 boards, the system is more likely to boot when the board chooses it's own secondary and tertiary timings compared to the universal timings written onto the module. 2. TPU - The TPU is the one click overclock for the processor. It has nothing to do with water or air cooling, despite the way Asus portrays the interface. TPU I is a very slight overclock over Intel settings. TPU II is a slightly larger one, but still moderate by any standard. If you have anything more than the Intel stock cooler, you can run either setting without issue. Most high end Asus boards have both physical switches for XMP and TPU, in addition to the ability to set enable these presets in both the EZ and Advanced BIOS. All accomplish exactly the same thing. However, I would recommend you not use the physical switches. If you alter any other BIOS parameters, it can have immediate consequences. It is also a lot easier to enable/disable in the BIOS than reach underneath and flick those little things. If you decide a modest overclock and your XMP memory setting is just fine for now, you can enable these features and leave it. IF down the line you wish to tweak the settings further, be sure to disable the TPU setting and you may wish to manually set the memory primary timings. Enabling XMP causes other settings to shift in the BIOS. Most are helpful. Some are not, particularly if you are experienced. One of the more common changes is a shift in the 'strap' or whole system multiplier to 125 (100 or 1 is standard). The BIOS will adjust most frequencies automatically, but some don't properly change and this does disable adaptive voltage in the BIOS. 3. I agree with Ray and recommend you use the CPU_FAN header for the cooler. There is nothing special about water pump header and it is more useful in a traditional system where you need motherboard headers for both the fans and pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonC Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 I have a similar configuration to the OP and concur with most of what has been said above. I do have my cooler connected to the Water Pump header. Although there is nothing special about it, using it seems tidier. It does come with a downside, though, as until you change the Monitor settings to IGNORE the CPU Fan speed your system won't boot. For increasing the number of USB 2.0 headers I find the NZXT IU01 perfectly good - in fact I have two of them. As for your RAM, I simply selected the XMP profile from the BIOS. It works just fine. The 2133MHz figures appear to pertain to the SPD chips rather than the DIMMs. You should see 3000MHz elsewhere in the BIOS. I have the H110i-GT and it reports pump speed to CL4 despite being connected to the Water Pump header. There is quite a lot of options in the BIOS for this MB. I'm not an expert, but I'm happy to tell you how I have mine configured if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaCmmarata Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 There are two different solutions to not enough USB2 headers, see http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?p=759585. I need both as I have rather a lot of CL hardware. I don't have an ASUS Z170-Deluxe so don't really know what the best BIOS options are. I know the owner of the other ASUS Z170-Deluxe was looking at this thread, so maybe he will know. I feel it's best to use the CPU Fan header as the W_PUMP speed is reported via EC and CL4 will not report it, see http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?p=805421. If you look at Menu->Hardware->Cooling Status SIV reports it as 7 SYS Pump. Awesome!! Thank you for pointing me to that forum thread red-ray. The NZXT IU01 seems to be the best option here so I've just order one. I hope to finally complete this custom build next week, still waiting to put my hands on the last three pieces now: 1. NVIDIA GTX 1080 (Asus Founders Edition) 2. ASUS ThunderboltEX II/Dual 3. NZXT IU01 Currently using a regular small TV through an HDMI cable :sigh!:. Hope to get it connected to the Apple Thunderbot display asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreaCmmarata Posted May 29, 2016 Author Share Posted May 29, 2016 1. XMP is a one click overclock for your memory. Unlike the TPU setting below, it is possible to over-reach on your frequency. I can buy a 4200 MHz kit. That doesn't mean my system can run it. If you you enabled XMP, the system booted, and you appear otherwise stable... great. Leave it alone. If this changes, manually set your memory frequency in the BIOS, then set the voltages farther down. Finally set the first four primary timings in the DRAM settings from the AI Tweaker section in the BIOS. In my experience on the Asus DDR4 boards, the system is more likely to boot when the board chooses it's own secondary and tertiary timings compared to the universal timings written onto the module. 2. TPU - The TPU is the one click overclock for the processor. It has nothing to do with water or air cooling, despite the way Asus portrays the interface. TPU I is a very slight overclock over Intel settings. TPU II is a slightly larger one, but still moderate by any standard. If you have anything more than the Intel stock cooler, you can run either setting without issue. Most high end Asus boards have both physical switches for XMP and TPU, in addition to the ability to set enable these presets in both the EZ and Advanced BIOS. All accomplish exactly the same thing. However, I would recommend you not use the physical switches. If you alter any other BIOS parameters, it can have immediate consequences. It is also a lot easier to enable/disable in the BIOS than reach underneath and flick those little things. If you decide a modest overclock and your XMP memory setting is just fine for now, you can enable these features and leave it. IF down the line you wish to tweak the settings further, be sure to disable the TPU setting and you may wish to manually set the memory primary timings. Enabling XMP causes other settings to shift in the BIOS. Most are helpful. Some are not, particularly if you are experienced. One of the more common changes is a shift in the 'strap' or whole system multiplier to 125 (100 or 1 is standard). The BIOS will adjust most frequencies automatically, but some don't properly change and this does disable adaptive voltage in the BIOS. 3. I agree with Ray and recommend you use the CPU_FAN header for the cooler. There is nothing special about water pump header and it is more useful in a traditional system where you need motherboard headers for both the fans and pump. I have a similar configuration to the OP and concur with most of what has been said above. I do have my cooler connected to the Water Pump header. Although there is nothing special about it, using it seems tidier. It does come with a downside, though, as until you change the Monitor settings to IGNORE the CPU Fan speed your system won't boot. For increasing the number of USB 2.0 headers I find the NZXT IU01 perfectly good - in fact I have two of them. As for your RAM, I simply selected the XMP profile from the BIOS. It works just fine. The 2133MHz figures appear to pertain to the SPD chips rather than the DIMMs. You should see 3000MHz elsewhere in the BIOS. I have the H110i-GT and it reports pump speed to CL4 despite being connected to the Water Pump header. There is quite a lot of options in the BIOS for this MB. I'm not an expert, but I'm happy to tell you how I have mine configured if that helps. Thank you guys for your precious and detailed input on my questions!! You really helped me to clarify all the doubts I had. You are the best!!! :sunglasse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red-ray Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 The NZXT IU01 seems to be the best option here so I've just order one. I forgot to mention the NZXT IU01 does not need to be powered provided all the devices connected use <= 500mA in total, though I would power it for > 400mA. Mine is as below and is not powered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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