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Old 05-22-2012, 03:08 PM
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Default Vengeance 2000 - Loopback HW ?

Hi,

i've just received my Vengeance 2000 and i noticed i can hear what goes through the mic.

Please don't tell me to uncheck "Listen to this device" in Windows sound settings, i've already checked that. This happens when the headset is wirelessly connected to usb stick even if i mute the headset in windows. That's why i'm asking you : is there a way to disable what looks like an HW audio loopback ?

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Old 05-22-2012, 03:15 PM
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have you tried going to volume control -> playback devices -> right click headset -> properties -> levels tab... then there should be two sliders, the bottom should say mic levels or something; adjust that to 0/mute.
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Old 05-22-2012, 06:54 PM
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Yeah, i've read that somewhere but there's only one bar for the regular volume in here.

Moreover that wouldn't explain why this happens even if i mute windows : /

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Old 05-23-2012, 01:32 PM
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Let me get with our Audio engineer and ask this question. I should have an update later this afternoon.
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Old 05-23-2012, 03:20 PM
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Thanks :)

In the meantime i've attempted a clean driver reinstall (rm driver, reboot, install driver, reboot) without success.

Feels like the piece of software within the headset is a bit messed up : /

Is there a way to reset/reflash the headset through USB link ?
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Old 05-23-2012, 06:13 PM
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I spoke with our Audio engineer. If I'm understanding you correctly on what you are experiencing than this is normal. With a wireless headset the mic loop back will always be on. It is unlike a wired USB or analog headset where in Windows you can turn it off an on (you can turn it on with the 2000). What we did was fine tune it that at low level in which the loop back should not distract you or hear yourself above your normal speech of what your ears hear. I also was wondering about this because when I grab the microphone and pull it to my mouth, or blow on the microphone I hear a slight noise through the drivers.

When you put the boom all the way upright it will disable the microphone, and loop back.
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Old 05-24-2012, 07:28 PM
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Okay ... sorry but this is clearly wrong. You gotta fix that.

I'm not sure to understand what you mean :
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With a wireless headset the mic loop back will always be on.
I own a cheap wireless headset which does not let me hear that kind of loopback. It also has various drawbacks but not that one.

I'm pretty sure I won't be the only one to complain about this.
This needs to be implemented as an optional feature in a future driver release.

To support the request, I'll detail my use-case.

I'm playing a game with some friends using Teamspeak. I usually use Voice Activation for Teamspeak.
I can easily tune the threshold for voice detection in Teampseak according to my voice and audio environment (wind, neighbours, dishwasher, ...).

Sometimes, i can hear myself breath in the mic. It doesn't trigger VoiceActivation so my friends don't hear it. Which is cool, since they don't need to. The mic "hears" it. Fine by me. But I definitely don't need to hear that.

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What we did was fine tune it that at low level in which the loop back "should" not distract you or hear yourself above your normal speech of what your ears hear.
Well, even if I do hear my own voice through the mic, my playback voice is in sync and pretty low volume so it is indeed not really distracting. But still, i don't need to hear it.

I'm not raging against you (or anyone else) but I don't get it. Since I have a proof that it's not technically impossible to make a headset without HW audio loopback, I'm wondering what's the reason behind this ?
For that kind of price, I would've expected a few more options : /
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Old 05-25-2012, 06:28 AM
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Do you by any chance have a creative or third party sound card? I have had this same issue and found that the X-fi crystalizer if set to high levels will cause me to hear myself through the mic.

Or the setting "Mic environment FX". If that is on at all i get the same.
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My understand is that is how the headset will function with loop back. We will be posting a FAQ/Blog on the headset that will go over a lot of technology and features of it.
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Old 05-28-2012, 12:56 AM
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MoMotte, is it really that loud? I don't hear myself at all, even if I yell while the mic is 1-2 inches away from my mouth. I only hear myself when I put the mic right in front of my mouth or blow into it.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:42 AM
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I have the same thing on my 1300's. I like it though. I can say monologues and make accents. Great fun.
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I have a pair on right now that I'm reviewing, and I can say that it's more than likely because if they didn't have loopback where you could hear yourself talking then you would probably end up yelling.

I personally like it, as the vengeance 1300's I reviewed a couple month back didn't have that feature and I was told by other family in the house that I was rather loud, and it was because I wasn't able to tell how loudly I was talking with the headphones on my head.
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Hearing yourself breathing is so god damn annoying.. It might just make me return it to the store :|. When I talk a bit louder I start hearing myself distorted ._..

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Odd... Sounds to me like OP's headset had a problem with it's loopback honestly. My set has the loopback, but It's so quiet I can't even tell it's there unless I move the mic directly in front of my mouth and blow into it, or rub my finger across it. I actually wish I could turn it up a bit more. =\
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Hearing yourself breathing is so god damn annoying.. It might just make me return it to the store :|. When I talk a bit louder I start hearing myself distorted ._..
I can't hear myself breathe at all. Perhaps an exchange is in line?
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