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Old 04-17-2020, 06:20 AM
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Possible placement for the XD5 pump/res.

Not terrible.

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Need to pop the inner chassis back into the outer chassis and see what the external view looks like next.

I have a feeling this will be almost invisible once the inner chassis back inside.
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Old 04-18-2020, 01:50 AM
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Ready to plan tubing now...

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Old 04-19-2020, 02:04 AM
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Your new build is coming right along.

That case design is really neat with the way they designed the pull-out interior chassis and the fact that it allows for conventional layout and parts install.

My first impression at seeing the case fresh out of the box, was that they had created a monster where the parts installs were going to be at all kinds of crazy angles...lol

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Old 04-23-2020, 07:33 PM
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Here's the first test look at the RGBz on the new Conquer case.



The fan down the bottom is a QL. I took out the Conquest one that came with the case - it has a proprietary 5 pin connector that does both power and RGB that connects to the control box that also comes with the case. That ain't gonna play well with my Corsair solution so out the door that went !!

Cooling value on that fan installed as it is will be almost zero. There is a glass panel right in front of it. There is an air gap around the side so there will be air movement, but its not on a rad and is there purely for bling - and I like it :-)

At this stage the power is just coming from a jumpered PSU, there is no controlled effect, this is just to get an idea of the look.

The case lighting strips above the fan are also directly controllable via an ARGB connector which my ASUS Crosshair Formula board has. My cunning plan is to employ the iCue integration with the onboard ASUS lighting that Corsair recently implemented.

You can't really see from this photo, but directly behind the lower QL fan, are 2 more QL fans, mounted in reverse providing lighting for the case interior. The jury is still out here on how successfull this is going to be. One option I have is to get a 240 rad and mount it behind the front fan you see here which will stop the light bleed to the front and provide a better directed cooling flow to the interior of the case. Another option is to take the 2 x QL fans that I would put on the 240 rad and move them to the top where I have a 360 with 3 more QLs. This will give me less lighting on the interior of the case, but more up top. I don't know which is more important yet.

Decisions decisions :-)

P.S. I have been chatting to a company who are based here in Australia who do some really nice custom liquid cooling projects for high end clients who told me that ASUS actually implement the "RGB" on their motherboard headers as "GRB". I imagine that could have some interesting and unwanted side effects :-)
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So what are the radiator options with that case?
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Old 04-28-2020, 02:53 AM
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Radiator options are:
- 360 up top
- 240 at the front

Push/Pull on the top 360 would be challenging, but not impossible. Main problem is with the 3 fans on the top of the rad. With the inner chassis sliding in and out, and at an angle, you can't prefit the 3 fans on the top of the radiator as the inner chassis won't slide back in with the 3 fans mounted. You can cut out a bit at the back of the case to make room so you could slide the inner chassis in and out with the top fans attached, or you could remove the top part of the frame and attach the fans to the top of the rad once the inner chassis is inserted. I favour neither of those options so I will just be having 3 fans on the bottom of the top rad.

I currently have a 280 rad I bought for the top of the 500D when this build started, but the space at the front of the inner chassis here only fits a 240, not a 280. You can just mount the fans without a rad at the front, and I tried that in the shot above, but I don't like the colour that bleeds through from the fans behind. You could go with non-RGB fans there if you wanted, as that front rad is buried behind the front fascia anyway and not too visible so the RGB effect isn't huge there anyway - horses for courses !!

The case design is essentially open anyway so the need to be pedantic about precise airflow probably isn't as great as on other closed cases, but again, you can take it as far as you like, and it will depend on what visibility you will have to the innards of the case once its assembled and sitting in your room.

I can tell you its a heavy beast though - as I'm sure the 1000D is too !! I'm already struggling to lift the whole thing onto the box I have it sitting on at the moment - and there's still no tubing or fluid in it ! Or CPU. Or RAM. Or PSU (PSU will actually make a noticeable difference I suspect!)

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Old 04-28-2020, 03:01 AM
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Afterthought: You/I *could*, possibly, also add a rad to the side of the mobo on the inner chassis, in the photo above, behind where I have propped the XD5 res. Similar to what you see on the Lian Li - 011, and also the 1000D if I'm not mistaken. I actually contemplated putting a distro plate there, but decided against that in the end - that might be a V2 upgrade down the track :-)
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I looked at that case and it's little brother when I was thinking about moving from the 500d. Just wasn't enough of a change in radiator performance for me to switch to it. I do like the unique look.
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I looked at that case and it's little brother when I was thinking about moving from the 500d. Just wasn't enough of a change in radiator performance for me to switch to it. I do like the unique look.
That's a fair call. From what I can tell I think you have to understand that this is essentially an "open" case and so your thinking about airflow has to change a bit. Its the first case like this I've ever worked in so I'm making it up as I go along, and it is definitely challenging everything I've learned about airflow management over the years.

I think I just need to complete the build and get it up and running, then I can post the numbers and we can start drawing some conclusions. I do like that its just a bit different.

What I can say already is that it seems Cougar's support is not good. Certainly nowhere near Corsair's. I've already struck some issues/questions with the case and been pretty much left on my own to figure them out - which I've done. I guess this is something you need to bear in mind when you select a boutique manufacturer over an established brand. Don't get me wrong, I think the build quality is very good, and the design is definitely out there, but I did have a couple of questions and getting help has been challenging. There isn't the user community that we have here for the Corsair brand that's for sure.
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Old 05-02-2020, 02:14 AM
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So, we are finally getting towards build point now :-)

Have now decided that I do want/need a 240mm rad to go in the front of the case as well as the 360mm up top. Initially, due to this case being an open design I was thinking I might be able to survive with just the 360mm rad for cooling and fans at the front for additional lighting, but then I realised that since I do actually plan to spend some time playing with overclocking both the CPU and the GPU once this is assembled, that really means I should be looking at at least 4 120mm fan/rads (using the very general 2 x 120mm fan/rads per component you plan to overclock rule). Either way, I have the room, and before I start the tubing, now is the easy time to add a second rad.

I then found a couple of slightly better specced rads than what I already had, so they are now in a package making their way from the US to Australia :-)

Coolant has now been decided on and ordered, that's in a different box heading from a few kilometeres away to my house.

And the good news is that the CPU I really wanted, the 3950X has now started dropping in price after the evil and artificially inflated COVID-inspired price hike it has suffered from over the last month, so I am monitoring that now and once it drops into my preferred price bracket again I will be snaffling one of those as well.

I had previously decided that an AX1200i PSU was more than ample for my needs, but since then I have found a local retailer with some AX1500i units at a lower price, so I have my eye on one of those too.

1TB PCIE 4 NVMe stick arrived this week too, so now the last remaining item I need is RAM. I have my eye on what I want there too, just need to sleep on that for a day or two.

Am also planning to send PirateDog a few sovereigns as well and load up on some RGB and Fan extensions so I can make my cabling as tidy as possible. The downside of an open framed case such as the Conquer 2 is that there is nowhere to hide the cables so I will need to be clever there.

Its all starting to come together :-)
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Latest care package arrived this morning - Mayhems stuff.



I know there is almost religious debate here and in many other forums about the pros and cons of using coloured coolant, and I agonised over this decision for ages. My original plan was to go with clear, but once the new Conquer case became the feature, I decided that the Orange panels it came with weren't terrible. When I first saw the case online I hated the Orange and my plan was to paint those couple of panels out to a different colour. I had seen a couple of online build reports using this case where they painted them and their result was amazing. After unpacking the case though, my partner and I both agreed that it doesn't actually look that awful after all in real life. Its a little bit different (and the whole case is actually a LOT different) so that kind of fits.

With the way I think the end look is going to be, especially with the smoked glass, the interior won't be clearly visible, its going to be visible, but not overpowering. So my hope is that the pastel orange coolant, which will be vaguely apparent, from some angles, without being completely "in your face" might actually be an effective balance to the outer panels.

If its not, then I have a draining, cleaning and refilling event on my horizon - luckily I have a good rad cleaning kit now for that !!! I'm actually very happy that I managed to find a Mayhems supplier here in Melbourne and their costs are extremely reasonable.

(Not much else about this build has been "reasonable" costs !!!!!)
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Latest round of orders dispatched to the ether :-)

A new pack of cables just ordered from Cablemod more in line with the emerging Orange / Black theme of the Conquer case.

These are now being made for me:



And a couple of packs of their Orange anodized thumbscrews are on the way as well. Not sure exactly what their ultimate purpose in life will be, but I would rather have them on hand for when I decide that that's the missing link that I simply cannot live without :-)

Also have some White Mayhems Pastel coolant on its way as I'm currently undecided between the Orange and the White. Will make up a couple of "display" tubes so I can have a look, because I have zero ability to picture anything in my very simple "man brain".

"Man see, Man like" - that's the sophistication of the "design" process for me :-)
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Next care package arrived today, my seriously overspecced PSU.



I had originally settled on the HX1200i. I have an HX1000i in my current daily drive and I really like the "i" letting me interface to iCue and see some stats so I wanted to stick with that. I also wanted to step up a little from the 1000 to give me extra headroom to play with overclocking, plus to drive all the cooling gear (Yes, I'm quite sure 1000w would have been more than adequate as I am not planning a second GPU or LNO2, but I am also a firm believer in not underspeccing the PSU. Inadequate other devices are manageable - inadequate power is a recipe for disaster.

Once I was ready to shop for the PSU (one of the last components I need) of course I found that you could no longer get 1000i or 1200i anywhere. Then I stumbled upon a local retailer who had some 1500is on Sale - so I jumped ! Maybe they are running them out, I don't know and I don't care - I have one now !! Warranty is obviously still good, but I know I won't need that !

Now - CPU and RAM to go and we can put this puppy together :-) Just in time for Zen 3 to arrive and rain on my parade !!
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