H100 + 650D best setup?

Hi,

 

I would like to know whats the best setup for the h100 in the 650d, only using 2 fans on the h100.

 

Setup 1,2,3,4,5,6.... or another one

I think that the better one would be setup 3.

 

Thanks

now see my paint skills haha

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h336/lambertsbr/SETUP1.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h336/lambertsbr/SETUP2.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h336/lambertsbr/SETUP3.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h336/lambertsbr/SETUP4.jpg

http://s1104.photobucket.com/albums/h336/lambertsbr/?action=view&current=SETUP5.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h336/lambertsbr/SETUP5.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h336/lambertsbr/SETUP6.jpg

Best? I don't know if anyone has done enough of a controlled study to determine that.

I can only give my anecdotal experience, in telling you that I am using aftermarket fans in a configuration similar to your #1, but with 4 120mm fans in the mesh side panel, and an extra pair of 120s mounted externally above the H100 rad, pulling out.

 

It cools very well.

Number 5>

 

http://martinsliquidlab.i4memory.com...ng-Review.html

 

http://martinsliquidlab.i4memory.com/img/FanShroudTest4-25mm1350.png

 

Add a shroud above the radiator with the fans above the shroud pulling air out/upwards as sickfiddy mentioned, If possible?>

 

http://www.frozencpu.com/images/products/large/cpa-280_4.jpg

 

Would be even better to mod the H100 & put the radiator outside the case away from the internal heat

Number 5>

 

http://martinsliquidlab.i4memory.com...ng-Review.html

 

http://martinsliquidlab.i4memory.com/img/FanShroudTest4-25mm1350.png

 

Add a shroud above the radiator with the fans above the shroud pulling air out/upwards as sickfiddy mentioned, If possible?>

 

http://www.frozencpu.com/images/products/large/cpa-280_4.jpg

 

Would be even better to mod the H100 & put the radiator outside the case away from the internal heat

 

Seriously? because #5 doesn't make a lot of sense...the fans will be above the h100 , pulling air, so at least setup 1 makes more sense than #5, 'cause it will be pushing air into the radiator...

and the rear fan would not be better pushing cold air into the case ? that way the #5 should get lower temps

 

 

like...corsair recommends the #1, so at least makes more sense than #5

http://www.corsair.com/blog/installing-the-hydro-series-h100-in-the-obsidian-650d/

and at least for me #2 makes more sense than #1/#5...

 

omg that's getting confused

 

(still think that the 3 is the better one)

Sorry you are wrong, Did you read the 650D install guide?>

 

Copied from the link you posted>

 

http://www.corsair.com/blog/installing-the-hydro-series-h100-in-the-obsidian-650d/

 

"The fan direction with the H100 is optional, and dependent on how many exhaust fans you already have, the key is to have a good balance of intake versus exhaust. In most configurations with the H100 we would recommend using the fans as exhaust, which we will be doing with the 650D."

 

This pic clearly shows the rear fan exhausting air out of the case & the radiator fans PUSHING air out of the case through the radiator

http://www2.corsair.com/_images/systembuild//h100_installs/650d/fully-installed.JPG

 

Basically the corsair 650D/H100 install guide (BLOG) is saying to setup like number 1 in your paint shop squiggles

 

Now if you read the link I posted (which did not work sorry)>

http://martinsliquidlab.i4memory.com/Radiator-Fan-Orientation-And-Shroud-Testing-Review.html

You would realize that corsair did not test their guide/setup to actually show which way is more efficient

 

Pulling air through a radiator is more efficient than pushing air through it (Whether it is used as intake or exhaust that is a separate thing)>

 

http://martinsliquidlab.i4memory.com/img/FanShroudTest4-25mm1350.png

 

In my opinion they are all wrong & I would be mounting the radiator outside the case in the ambient air rather than in the heat of the case

 

Go with setup 4 or 5 but pulling air through the radiator is more efficient than pushing air into the radiator, Especially when using a shroud

 

Read up>

 

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=106371

 

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=106013

 

Let us know when you can get temps like this>

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=106793

Sorry you are wrong, Did you read the 650D install guide?>

 

Copied from the link you posted>

 

http://www.corsair.com/blog/installing-the-hydro-series-h100-in-the-obsidian-650d/

 

"The fan direction with the H100 is optional, and dependent on how many exhaust fans you already have, the key is to have a good balance of intake versus exhaust. In most configurations with the H100 we would recommend using the fans as exhaust, which we will be doing with the 650D."

 

This pic clearly shows the rear fan exhausting air out of the case & the radiator fans PUSHING air out of the case through the radiator

http://www2.corsair.com/_images/systembuild//h100_installs/650d/fully-installed.JPG

 

Basically the corsair 650D/H100 install guide (BLOG) is saying to setup like number 1 in your paint shop squiggles

 

Now if you read the link I posted (which did not work sorry)>

http://martinsliquidlab.i4memory.com/Radiator-Fan-Orientation-And-Shroud-Testing-Review.html

You would realize that corsair did not test their guide/setup to actually show which way is more efficient

 

Pulling air through a radiator is more efficient than pushing air through it (Whether it is used as intake or exhaust that is a separate thing)>

 

http://martinsliquidlab.i4memory.com/img/FanShroudTest4-25mm1350.png

 

In my opinion they are all wrong & I would be mounting the radiator outside the case in the ambient air rather than in the heat of the case

 

Go with setup 4 or 5 but pulling air through the radiator is more efficient than pushing air into the radiator, Especially when using a shroud

 

Read up>

 

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=106371

 

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=106013

 

Let us know when you can get temps like this>

http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=106793

 

thanks man so I think i will be going with 5. But in my mind 3 is another good option..

 

If I go with 5, as you said, it's better to have the rear fan as intake or exhaust ?

Try it both ways & see what gives you the best temps? Its all just trial & error

 

With the rear fan as intake it will feed the radiator and may give the CPU a temp derease

 

With the rear fan exhausting it will exhaust some of the inside case heat which will also help the CPU but which way round is best is really hard to say without actually testing

 

I strongly recommend getting a fan shroud to go in between you rad & fans (above the radiator/below the fans) Put some distance in between the rad & fans

 

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9130/cpa-280/Tecnofront_AirBox_240_-_Acrylic.html?tl=g30c429#blank

Try it both ways & see what gives you the best temps? Its all just trial & error

 

With the rear fan as intake it will feed the radiator and may give the CPU a temp derease

 

With the rear fan exhausting it will exhaust some of the inside case heat which will also help the CPU but which way round is best is really hard to say without actually testing

 

I strongly recommend getting a fan shroud to go in between you rad & fans (above the radiator/below the fans) Put some distance in between the rad & fans

 

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/9130/cpa-280/Tecnofront_AirBox_240_-_Acrylic.html?tl=g30c429#blank

 

omfg but this fan shround will not fit into the case

 

this is a h100 + 650d with the settings you recommended

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss346/moop3753/650d322.jpg

What sort of temps are you getting? CPUID hardware monitor is good for all the temp readings

omfg but this fan shround will not fit into the case

 

With most mobos, that will indeed be an issue.

You will also most likely have negative pressure in the case w/ your examples 1 and 5. This is why I added the mesh side panel w/ 4 (filtered) fans blowing in.

What temps are you getting with all them fans Fiddy?

Best setup for H100 is on top. For CPU best is intake, but difference between exhaust and intake is about 1-2C and intake is bad for other components for more than 5C.

Than H100 on top - exhaust, front fans Intake, all, in middle on bottom all front intake.

On back exhaust too, on front panel if persist intake, on bottom of case if persist intake to, on top without CORSAIR H100, exhaust too.

For everything with H100 or without this is best fan setup

 

http://i.imgur.com/vszaX.jpg

Looking at your image it shows cold air are going into the case from the bottom but there are no fans or places to put fans in the bottom of a 650D or am I missing something here?

What temps are you getting with all them fans Fiddy?

 

Consistent temps w/ low fan speeds + positive case pressure, which is what I want.

 

Pushing a less-than-lucky-batch 2600K to 4.8 takes a bit of voltage, so I'm not setting and "bragging rights" records w/ the temps, but I'm not concerned w/ that anyway.

 

I use the machine for graphic design, not games, so it's not running flat out for extended lengths of time.... but I want max performance for the times I do need it, and don't want the distraction of loud fans spinning up and down all the time while I work.

 

Also, the extra fans keep my GPU, memory and (5) hard drives cool.

I use setup two.

 

I've got four 120mm stock fans in a push pull as exhaust on my H100.

 

Stock 120mm rear fan blowing in cold air across the MB.

 

Stock 200mm fan in the front. I don't really like this fan though as it seems to blow off the air to the sides in an crazy motion rather than push the air forward.

 

Overall I'm happy with my temps.

I’ve had a 650D since March 2011 when first becoming available. Your diagrams are great. With the negative pressure Set-Ups 1,2,4,5 you are going to pull a great deal of non-filtered air (dust) into the chassis via the rear accessory card vents. I used these configurations with a Noctua NH-D14 and an Air-penetrator 180mm top exhaust before I got the H100 and was cleaning, vacuuming the acrylic side window and the dust inside the chassis twice a week, with the unfiltered side mesh panel which I have the dust is even worse, but cpu temps and gpu temps are very low.

 

Moving to positive pressure Set-Ups 3 and 6 and filtering the top intakes (I used 2 Silverstone 120mm magnetic filters 4dollars each) temps at idle were slightly better and dust? What dust? Negligible.

 

As far as push or pull goes, 3 or 6, the company I purchased the fans from stated “push” would yield 1C to 2C lower temps, but this seems to depend more on the many variables inherent in the fans, so try both and see what works best.

I Remember there used to be Fan shroud to fit 140mm fans onto a 120mm outtake

If there still available I would advice to use those in a pull configuration Since this will provide both the benefits of A shroud and the higher airflow of 140mm Fans

 

I Would also advice "setup 5" as this will remove most hot air from your case

The 200mm fan will provide enough intake but in in case you might need more there are some company's that provide a 120mm intake fan that fits into 3 5.25" Drive bays

 

I do recommend this to prevent something like "Setup 4"

Let me just explain

We all know hot air goes up naturally

you might also know that most graphics cards push air out to the back ...

So what happens is that your graphics card blows out hot air that goes up ...

 

I think you might already get the point there

Hmmmm, still thinking.

hello hello hello.

 

was wondering a bit about the airflow and temps in the corsair 650D with a h100 closed water cooler mounted in the top of the case, and i tried quite a few of the variances in the OP.

I found the best cooling was with Setup #6 since my case is on top of my table with very good access to cool air from the front and top of the case.

 

note:

none of the setups are "better" in my opinion. it all depends on the enviroment which it is in and where it is placed. either under the table or over.

 

extra info:

- Fans used

- filters used

DEMCiflex Corsair 650D Magnetic Dust / Fan Filter Top (this covers the entire mesh on the top)

 

Thanks for that - didn't know something like this existed.

Thanks for that - didn't know something like this existed.

Oh yeah! Excellent products too. I use them on my rigs!

Incredibly helpful information. I'm just praying I don't have trouble with the mounting brackets on my Extreme IV when this comes in the mail.

People(650D+H100 owners) are you use little grommets on top in place for H100 screews or install without grommet like on CORSAIR Blog.

 

http://i.imgur.com/5d6MN.jpg

 

I ask because possibile vibration and avoid to damage case paint.

What you think with "rubber" or without???

I install H70 on back side with rubber to protect paint and because vibration.

Really, it's personal preference. If you want the grommets, by all means use them. It's certainly not going to hurt anything.

hello hello hello.

 

was wondering a bit about the airflow and temps in the corsair 650D with a h100 closed water cooler mounted in the top of the case, and i tried quite a few of the variances in the OP.

I found the best cooling was with Setup #6 since my case is on top of my table with very good access to cool air from the front and top of the case.

 

note:

none of the setups are "better" in my opinion. it all depends on the enviroment which it is in and where it is placed. either under the table or over.

 

extra info:

- Fans used

- 2x noctua 120mm on the h100

- 1x standard 200mm fan in the front

- 1x noctua 140mm in the back

- filters used

- 1x DEMCiflex Corsair 650D Magnetic Dust / Fan Filter Top (this covers the entire mesh on the top)

- 1x DEMCiflex 200mm Magnetic Dust / Fan Filter - Round (covers the 200mm fan mesh in the front)

 

I have mine setup like #6 as well, but using all the stock fans. My temps are ridiculous low even under load. I still want to change the fans out to either the Noctua or the Cougar.

 

*edit*

I purchased 3 Cougar CF-V12HP and 1 COOLER MASTER R4-MFJR-07FK-R1 200mm Case Fan. I setup my fan like Option 1 and not only is the whole thing a lot quieter at idle and especially under load my temps dropped 3c all around.