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Old 08-29-2013, 09:41 AM
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RTM has indeed leaked and is spreading across computers fast. The fact that a company is going to add support for Windows 8.1 when it is released or even months after the release, is beyond me. It is already too late now and support should have been added long time ago when 8.1 preview version was released. I have seen this behavior at multiple companies and I was like "wth ?". If I had money, I would buy these companies and fire the people responsible for these poor choices like "support after the release bleee" This world is just.... lol. Last year I saw one software company unaware of released RTM version of operating system on MSDN and they were actually arguing that system was not released and therefor they were not going to add any support. Ridiculous

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Well its out on MSDN and TechNet Corsair has no excuse not to start work on it now.
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If I had money, I would buy these companies and fire the people responsible for these poor choices like "support after the release bleee"
more importantly is ''what would you then do?''
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Old 09-10-2013, 04:08 AM
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hello

so now what we are doing?
OS: Microsoft Windows 8.1 Professional
REV : 6.3.9600.16384

installed today from msdn , no excuses to fix it , cause now no fans and can't change any fans speed ...

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Old 09-10-2013, 05:10 PM
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i do not want that fix , even if its a great work from scotty_two .
i want a "legit" fix from corsair
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Old 09-10-2013, 05:25 PM
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Needs a real fix the temp fix is not reliable with RTM for my self.
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Old 09-11-2013, 03:18 AM
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Just to note, that fix doesn't work for me for some reason.

But a custom controlled watercooler software should be tested and worked on before the OS is in public hands, whether its Public Preview, Beta or Even alpha. As long as the public has it, it needs to be supported to prevent hardware damage.
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I dont disagree with you but you should voice that opinion at Microsoft...

bommie,
I am sorry but all I can tell you it is in the works. And before you ask we do not have an ETA on the next release. However we will post it as soon as it is available. And No I am not saying the next release will support Windows 8.1...
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Old 09-13-2013, 03:13 AM
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I dont disagree with you but you should voice that opinion at Microsoft...

bommie,
I am sorry but all I can tell you it is in the works. And before you ask we do not have an ETA on the next release. However we will post it as soon as it is available. And No I am not saying the next release will support Windows 8.1...

Will the next update support IB-E and Haswell for temps atleast?

Because thats sorta disappointing. And like I said the only thing that needs to be updated is the USB Drivers. Which was confirmed in the "fix" thread. So that could be released as a "patch" like install.

Install latest Corsair then Install Windows 8.1 patch. It makes sense. Then with the release after next, bundle it together.
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Will the next update support IB-E and Haswell for temps atleast?
A: At this time I cannot answer this as it was due to an issue with Net Framework is my understanding and Microsoft would have to address that.

As I stated previously I am sorry I do not have an ETA on the supported versions of our software for Windows 8.1 and I cannot comment on unreleased software or hardware...
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But a custom controlled watercooler software should be tested and worked on before the OS is in public hands, whether its Public Preview, Beta or Even alpha. As long as the public has it, it needs to be supported to prevent hardware damage.
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I dont disagree with you but you should voice that opinion at Microsoft...
No. Microsoft doesn't build an operating system to be compatible with your software. Corsair builds software to be compatible with the operating system. It's understandable that things change in alphas, betas, and pre-releases, but that's the point of them and why the time span is so long; for kinks to get worked out and for developers to adapt their software to the changes so that they can have a product that works when the final build is released.

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And No I am not saying the next release will support Windows 8.1...
As of October 18th, all manufacturers will ship their computers with 8.1. So in effect, Corsair Link will only support legacy operating systems. Brilliant way of handling "current" software.
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As I stated the added support is in the works and that s all I can tell you. Windows 8.1 will be supported but just not at this time..

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No. Microsoft doesn't build an operating system to be compatible with your software. Corsair builds software to be compatible with the operating system. It's understandable that things change in alphas, betas, and pre-releases, but that's the point of them and why the time span is so long; for kinks to get worked out and for developers to adapt their software to the changes so that they can have a product that works when the final build is released.
Microsoft has some responsibility here in that they have a defined process in place for current shipping software and how to produce compatible products. With new UN-released products this process is not in place till the O.S. software product is officially announced. In addition if they have changed the driver structure and it changes dramatically from its previous version then more time will be needed to develop and test newer software and or drivers for said O.S. This is just what it takes and expecting hardware to be compatible with a new O.S. at the time of its release is not realistic and some, at least 50% of that burden falls on Microsoft. They can and do write drivers for many devices when a new O.S. is developed but normally only what is actually required to maintain and operate the system with the new O.S. I cannot speak for Microsoft but I am sure this is not a priority for them and expect all third and forth tier hardware developers will follow suit. I would suggest speaking with them for their take on the questions you pose. However, I am sure they will just pass the proverbial buck as they have done in the past. However bottom line is the supported release of our software for Windows 8.1 is not available at this time and as I have stated I do not have an ETA sorry!

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As of October 18th, all manufacturers will ship their computers with 8.1. So in effect, Corsair Link will only support legacy operating systems. Brilliant way of handling "current" software.
I think you confusing two very different segments of the computer industry. Basically the "Enthusiast Market" and the "System Builder market" System Builder market would not include this type of product if it did then yes Driver support would have been included in your OEM system IE HP, Dell, Gateway Ect. The channel/Enthusiast Market is very different and a much smaller number of users will adopt a new O.S. like this so Microsoft does not put as much effort and or solicit effort form third parties on third/forth party product support. That is nothing new.
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Old 09-13-2013, 06:56 PM
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I think you confusing two very different segments of the computer industry. Basically the "Enthusiast Market" and the "System Builder market" System Builder market would not include this type of product if it did then yes Driver support would have been included in your OEM system IE HP, Dell, Gateway Ect. The channel/Enthusiast Market is very different and a much smaller number of users will adopt a new O.S. like this so Microsoft does not put as much effort and or solicit effort form third parties on third/forth party product support. That is nothing new.
I wanna just say. That is slightly untrue, Any Enthusiast that wants to use DX11.1 or higher or any benchmarks that use Windows 8 will want to upgrade to 8.1. Its a lighter, more streamlined OS then Windows 8 was.

I'm a enthusiast. Not too long ago I was in the top 100 overclocker on HWBot in the US [currently 122 because I haven't been doing much].

The only reason currently a enthusiast wouldn't want Windows 8 [or 8.1 but I don't if the bug exists within 8.1] is because of the RTC bug that HWBOT banned all the Windows 8 results from being submitted.

Windows 8.1 is much lighter then Win8 or Win7. Low memory footprint, only 8gb installed [going of RTM installed within a VM if I remember correctly].

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I am sorry that may be that way for you but the powers at bay do not tend to flow our way. This is not our or my rule here only they way it appears to be. Look I am on your side here I agree with you ask the people who have known me for years they will tell you straight up where I stand...

There are many of us who agree with you and will do our best to push things along trust me I am known for getting up in the Presidents face and pushing issues (With Respect Uncle Andy ;-) .
But realistically this issue is not one we can even have a say over as its more about Uncle Bill and what Uncle Bill wants than it is about what Uncle Andy wants because Ram Guy says it must be so. I hope you understand what I am telling you here we all want the same thing it just takes time.
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