DoubleJMan Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 When i am in game, i see graphical glitches or artifacts and my pc momentarily freezes up every 5-10 mins in game. I am running my ram with timings of 5-5-5-15 2T @ 2.1v. If i set the ram timings on auto my pc runs stable and there are no glitches. I would like to know how to achieve stable ram timings @ 1066mhz. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted December 15, 2008 Corsair Employee Share Posted December 15, 2008 Unfortunately, most of the Phenom quad core CPUs we have seen are not capable of running memory at 1066. If your system is stable at 800, I would suggest you run the memory there. For improved memory bandwidth you should be able to run the timings at 4-4-4-12 and also possibly at a 1T command rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleJMan Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 Well my pc used to run my other pair of sticks which need to be sent in because one of the sticks stopped working. I bought these new sticks and put the same settings as my old one except it only needed 2.1v instead of 2.2v due to the fact that they are different revisions of ram. So i know my system can run fine with 1066mhz. Any ideas what the problem is? Im thinking its the revision change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted December 15, 2008 Corsair Employee Share Posted December 15, 2008 Try 2.2v on the memory. Also, does your BIOS allow you to adjust the memory controller voltage? You may need a slight bump there for 1066 opertion with certain modules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleJMan Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 Doesn't work, I still get glitches here and there @ 2.2v. I do not see anything in my bios for memory controller voltage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted December 15, 2008 Corsair Employee Share Posted December 15, 2008 Are you OCing the CPU at all? Are you OCing your GPU at all? Try clearing the BIOS, resetting all timings and voltages manually and testing again. If the problem persists, clear the BIOS, set the timings and voltage manuall, disable Legacy USB Support, and test each module with Memtest for 3-5 passes each. http://www.memtest.org Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007bont Posted December 15, 2008 Share Posted December 15, 2008 Go to tha tab "advanced" and set AI Overclock to manual in order to get these options: http://www.houseofhelp.com/v3/attachment.php?attachmentid=4807&stc=1&d=1229370130 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleJMan Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 I am not OCing anything at all, and I have previously done resetting bios and clearing cmos. I will do the memtest once i get a cd to burn on. I will post results as soon as I am done. Last question is, do i test the system with each ram inside the machine one at a time or with both of them in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted December 15, 2008 Corsair Employee Share Posted December 15, 2008 Either is fine for your initial run. However, if you do get errors, test each individually. And, don't forget to disable the Legacy USB Support as it can cause Memtest to indicate a false positive on ASUS boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleJMan Posted December 15, 2008 Author Share Posted December 15, 2008 I ran the tests with both sticks in and I got 4 passes. Looks like the RAM is fine. What now? I would really like to get these RAM sticks stable at 1066mhz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted December 15, 2008 Corsair Employee Share Posted December 15, 2008 Most likely it is going to be a voltage setting related to the memory controller since the memory is passing Memtest. Have you contacted ASUS Technical Support? Also, in the pic posted by 007bont, the HyperTransport voltage is the voltage you need to adjust. Try it 1 or 2 settings above the stock setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleJMan Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 I was still getting the same thing, but I figured out the problem and I can't believe i msised it. The problem was the trc setting for the ram. I was looking at CPUZ and i saw that it was at 31 CLK, I went to see the SPD settings and it was suppost to be 22 CLK. So I went back to the bios and changed it to 22 CLK and now when I go in game it seems fine. I will get reply again once I think my system is FULLY STABLE and run more memtests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted December 16, 2008 Corsair Employee Share Posted December 16, 2008 Good catch there. Is this with the latest BIOS from ASUS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleJMan Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Yes this is on the latest bios from asus and I just got a bunch of errors running memtest with test 6 and 7. In memtest, I see that my RAM settings are incorrect. It says Settings: RAM : 533 MHz (DDR107) / CAS : 5-3-3-3-22 / DDR-2 (Single) That's not right is it? What should I do now? The memtest is still running and I am on my laptop right now... BTW the last memtest I did (that got no errors) was when the RAM settings were all on auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007bont Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Are you using memtest V2.10? otherwise try to upload a photo of your bios settings just to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleJMan Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Yes I am using memtest V2.10 and here is my bios settings... http://users3.nofeehost.com/doublejman/Dsc01556.jpg http://users3.nofeehost.com/doublejman/Dsc01557.jpg Sry for the link, my camera resolution was too high so I couldn't upload here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Yes I am using memtest V2.10 and here is my bios settings... http://users3.nofeehost.com/doublejman/Dsc01556.jpg http://users3.nofeehost.com/doublejman/Dsc01557.jpg Sry for the link, my camera resolution was too high so I couldn't upload here. Please convert the photo resolutions before posting them. I can not view them easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleJMan Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 Sorry about that here are the new pics attached http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4815 http://www.houseofhelp.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4816 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I have advised people with 1066Mhz DRAM and Phenom processors to drop the bandwidth to 800Mhz and lower the latencies to 4-4-4-12. You will find that this is the best method with the Phenom. It is anything but Phenomenal. You can RMA the DRAM to Corsair if you wish, but you will just find the issue repeats. Very likely this is why your previous DRAM ended up with issues. Download Everest Trial Version from here -->Here Install Everest and right click on the (i) icon in the system tray. Choose Tools --> Cache and Memory Benchmark. Run the Benchmark at 1066 5-5-5-15 and 800 4-4-4-12. Results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleJMan Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 Would it really be ok to benchmark with those settings even through they are still not stable? After all it did get errors during memtest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Would it really be ok to benchmark with those settings even through they are still not stable? After all it did get errors during memtest. It's just a test, but at any rate you will not find much difference between the two and for your hardware the tighter timings are better. AMD has the memory controller integrated on the CPU. So, it is running on the interconnect HT between the processing units and the memory controller. There is no great need for high end speed since the HT protocol is 2000MHz. The timings show a far greater benefit with the short pathways. Intel (Other than i7 which also now has the memory controller integrated on the CPU die) has a long distance between the processing units and the memory controller located on the motherboard and as such, pure bandwidth speed is more important than timings. I would just set to 800Mhz and 4-4-4-12 2T with that Phenom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleJMan Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share Posted December 17, 2008 I cant set it to 4-4-4-12 lowest values are 5. I would still like to be able to run the RAM @ 1066 stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 I cant set it to 4-4-4-12 lowest values are 5. I would still like to be able to run the RAM @ 1066 stable. And so would many people with a Phenom processor. And of course you can set to 4-4-4-12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleJMan Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 I mean that there no option for 4 in the bios. But I still want to at least get this ram stable running at 1066mhz just like my older ram sticks. I am thinking it has to do with the different versions of the rams or these ram sticks are not working properly at 1066. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekT Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Unfortunately, most of the Phenom quad core CPUs we have seen are not capable of running memory at 1066. If your system is stable at 800, I would suggest you run the memory there. For improved memory bandwidth you should be able to run the timings at 4-4-4-12 and also possibly at a 1T command rate. Unfortunately, most of the Phenom quad core CPUs we have seen are not capable of running memory at 1066. If your system is stable at 800, I would suggest you run the memory there. For improved memory bandwidth you should be able to run the timings at 4-4-4-12 and also possibly at a 1T command rate. Google Phenom and 1066Mhz Memory Problems. See what you come up with. I have worked with Phenom and mostly I can't get the POS's to run 1066. If you got lucky with some set, then stick with that set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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