eigenVector Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 I am looking into purchasing one of the H50 or H70 coolers for my carPC. Before purchasing however I have a question. I understand that these coolers use distilled water with Propylene Glycol added. What effect does propylene glocol have on the temperature at which the water freezes? There may be times where I plan to boot the computer while it is at or below 0C for a few days a year. On these days I expect the CPU to heat up, and if the water is frozen to be thawed while operating. Will there be any problem operating the unit if it freezes or while the water in it is frozen? Is it possible the unit will break, become very fragile, or damage my other components if frozen at in the 0C, -10C, -20C ranges? At what minimum temperature is this device expected to operate normally? I'd really like to try this unit because the PC gets very hot in the summer, but would like something that will still works in winter. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyvee Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Spec below is from aseteks site ( they make the h50/70's ) , they list the storage temp as down to -40 but operating temp min is 5 so guess you had better thaw it out before starting it up :!: http://www.asetek.com/products/oem-standard-products/570lc.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eigenVector Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 Thanks andy! This helps a lot. This site also includes the max operating temp which helps as well. It looks like I'll just have to keep an eye out on the really hot summer days as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 That spec sheet may or may not be applicable to the H50/70. Please wait for an official answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eigenVector Posted September 13, 2010 Author Share Posted September 13, 2010 That spec sheet may or may not be applicable to the H50/70. Please wait for an official answer. Will do, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everettfsj Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I am looking into purchasing one of the H50 or H70 coolers for my carPC. Before purchasing however I have a question. I understand that these coolers use distilled water with Propylene Glycol added. What effect does propylene glocol have on the temperature at which the water freezes? There may be times where I plan to boot the computer while it is at or below 0C for a few days a year. On these days I expect the CPU to heat up, and if the water is frozen to be thawed while operating. Will there be any problem operating the unit if it freezes or while the water in it is frozen? Is it possible the unit will break, become very fragile, or damage my other components if frozen at in the 0C, -10C, -20C ranges? At what minimum temperature is this device expected to operate normally? I'd really like to try this unit because the PC gets very hot in the summer, but would like something that will still works in winter. Thanks! Definitely NOT a good idea. I also doubt that the unit can be stored below freezing as water expands by ~8% (rho = 0.92g/cc). It's likely that one or more hose connectors will be forced off as the unit freezes. Or the plastic hose might crack depending on it's thermal characteristics. But go ahead and at least stick it in your freezer first, then bench test for leaks afterwards. If the unit were frozen, the pump will not rotate at all until the water thaws in the pump housing, then it will just spin (no net flow), while the rest of the water thaws throughout the tubing, then the radiator, that will take several minutes at least. You will get all kinds of condensation on the tubing, radiator, and pump. Does your computer like dripping water? :eek: Do you want to burn out your pump in the meantime? :!: ::pirate:: Me? I go with air, instead of wasting $110 + a few thousands of dollars of computer equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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