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Old 11-13-2017, 12:52 AM
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Default [Build Log] King Ghidorah, 3 Gamers - 1 Threadripper - CWE


Intro

Now that the mainstream can get crazy core counts for not insane prices, I've been wanting to do a multi user system. A workstation by day, LAN party by night. I have 2 rx480s with copper blocks on them so far, I am in discussions to get a third. So I'm thinking, a 3 headed monster with a dedicated server? 4 cores and 16 gb of ram each, with lots of watercooling! I've narrowed down a few cases and designs, more to come on that later. But right now, things are coming in... Let's do this!

First I must say a big thank you to AMD and Corsair for sponsoring me with the cpu, motherboard, ram, case, and powersupply. I had just upgraded to Ryzen and I must say if that's the a powerhouse, then threadripper is a monster! A Kaiju, if you will?

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Update 0: Intro/Initial packaging

Parts:
CPU: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950x
Motherboard: Gigabyte x399 Aorus Gaming 7
RAM: 64GB of Corsair LPX 2933
GPUs: 3x RX 480 reference with EK copper single slot block.
SSDs: 3x Corsair MP500 240GB
Powersupply: Corsair RM1000x
Case: Corsair air 740
Monitors: 3x Acer KG221Q bmix 21.5"

Plan (Will be revised):
[ ] Post check of components
[ ] If scratch then case design
[ ] Monitor Mounting Design
[ ] Painting
[ ] Watercooling set up
[ ] Rigid tubing

UPDATE 0
And look at that packaging, I've never been so in awe upboxing something...










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Old 11-13-2017, 01:00 AM
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The monitors that I have chosen are the Acer Gaming 21.5" KG221Q bmix, they are 75hz, Freesync, 1vms, TN monitors that measure 20" by 12". The amazing part of the case selection is that the Corsair AIR 740 measures: 426mm x 340mm x 510mm meaning that if I turn the case on it's side, so the window is up, and a monitor will almost perfectly fit on the front.



And now that I have ram, SSDs, and the case, I can begin work! Next update should include more information about the parts and a general plan for the build.
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Old 11-14-2017, 04:55 AM
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So why does it feel like it is being marketed towards a community dominated by gamers? Is that just my misperception? The picture of Linus holding the Threadripper machine over his head on the front page of r/pcmasterrace made me thing about this.
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Old 11-14-2017, 12:14 PM
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So why does it feel like it is being marketed towards a community dominated by gamers? Is that just my misperception? The picture of Linus holding the Threadripper machine over his head on the front page of r/pcmasterrace made me thing about this.
Honestly... I have no idea why they would do that... My old main (doesn't get modified ever) machine is a 4790k and going to a 1950x even at 4ghz, is a very slight downgrade for anything that uses 4 cores or less. That said, that's still more than good enough to not bottleneck a graphics card at higher resolutions.

Threadripper is a productivity monster, great for high thread count loads and virtual machines. Virtual machines are literally getting better on Threadripper as we speak now that the KVM npt AMD bug has been fixed enabling pass through on KVM. Only reason I could see a "gamer" getting this chip is if they stream in multiple formats at once or do a lot of productivity on the side, possibly gaming while rendering, etc. Or if they just want the high end for the sake of the high end. Lastly, I guess if they NEED 64 PCIe lanes, which I don't know how you would fill that up in a practical build.

I'm planning 3 rx480s and 3 NVME drives, I'm not even maxing out the PCIe lanes... (Cards run in 16, 8, 16, with the 3 NVME taking up 12, making a total of 52 out of the available 60)
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Old 11-21-2017, 02:01 AM
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Planning for the case is starting, and I must say after unboxing this thing, it doesn't feel nearly as large as I was expecting. Because it's "double wide" it's a lot shorter both top to bottom and front to back. Overall, I'm really pleased with the size, and the build quality is quite nice!





But more importantly this is how it's planning to be used.



With a monitor essentially replacing the front. Look at how perfectly sized that is!



The others will be mounted via an arm to the side. I'm still looking into the structural integrity of where to mount those arms, but the size look really solid.



I think this case will be perfect for this, and the amount of watercooling it supports will mean the three RX480s and 1950x should be nice and cool!
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Old 11-27-2017, 08:03 PM
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Hey guys sorry for the delay in updates. With the holidays approaching schedules get crazy but I wanted to get a few teasers of some parts that are coming in and give a quick update on playing with things.

Update 1 Component Checking Part 1 and Planning

Teaser of the color scheme coming together:


Trying to figure out radiator fitment and routing.


I just ordered a Monsoon MMRS reservoir, hopefully I got the right length and parts for what I want, either way I'll be needing to do some painting on it.

Also I've never had so many sticks of matching ram before... This is glorious!


And they run perfectly on Threadripper, XMP worked perfectly, here's some Cinebench numbers.
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Old 12-15-2017, 04:19 PM
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Short update, but trying to give everyone a heads up.
I've been ordering parts and test fitting them along with general holiday busy-ness.


I hit a snag though with the reservoir, the stock mount from Monsoon puts it out so far in the case that it literally covers half of the motherboard. I do love the looks of the reservoir and if I can get it to work I plan on painting a lot of it. However.... I was going to cut a new mount on the laser, but that is getting delayed because the office flooded!


So hopefully this weekend my brother and I can clean the water mess up and I can get that piece cut. Stay tuned!
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Old 12-18-2017, 06:47 PM
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I've been waiting to see what would happen with Threadripper waterblocks. I told myself for a copper and gold themed build I need a plexi and copper block, ideally something that I could add some gold to.

I'm waiting to see if Heatkiller help me get a copper/plexi block without the top anodized, that way I can take it somewhere and get it anodized, probably gold.



Because that is a beautiful block.

If that doesn't work, I'll probably go with XSPC as their red edition block offers a similar feel, where I could anodize the hold down plate a different color. With that one, I know I can get it in copper and either re-anodize the hold down plate, or make my own... I do have some nice gold mirror acrylic tongue.gif

I'm on the fence honestly. I think I like the heatkiller block better, but the xspc allows me the opportunity to do some fun stuff with the large flat hold down plate... Opinions?
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Old 01-31-2018, 10:21 PM
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Default Ram and CPU Waterblock updates

Sorry for the delay, I've been waiting on the rest of the watercooling pieces... I talked with Watercool about getting a custom TR4 waterblock and they said yes! Only problem is the order got slightly missed by the people handling the nickel plating and all of that batch got sent off to be plated, so was bumped to the next batch.

But what I did in the mean time was take the opportunity to attempt lighting work, play with different tubing and paint.

Since the build is copper and gold I experimented a little bit. The left is gold and bronze alternating and the right is gold only.


I think the gold by itself looks much better so I did a few sticks to test how they look.






Honestly I think it looks great, the paint/marker needs to be touched up, but I really like it. IMO it's better than RGB leds.

Also I've been experimenting with frosted tubing, I'm trying to replicate the effect where the tube looks like it's glowing. But I'm actually on the fence about whether I'd rather just use the new Primochill Vue coolant. But so many people are having issues with it and the color I want isn't even out yet. So I figured I'd take my time and play around while I wait for the watercooling parts.

After lots of waiting, I got a special package in the mail towards the end of last week. This specific configuration of this block does not exist on the website, the base was not nickel plated and the top cover was not anodized. This means I can get the top anodized much more easily.



The surface area on the fin design is massive! Almost the size of the entire exposed Threadripper heatspreader, I'm very impressed.


I hopefully can take the top cover piece to get it anodized by a local shop this week. The plan is to get it gold and then hydro dip a snakeskin pattern on top of that, so we'll have a golden scale pattern.

Speaking of anodized though. I was trying to find ways to tie the gold theme through the build more without being gaudy. A tasteful piece here, a tasteful piece there. So I picked up the anodized gold singularity computers reservoir mounts to go with the new smaller bitspower reservoir... and... the color was very different from what I expected, way to orange-y of a gold. So those have been returned, and it looks like I'll be painting the standard plastic reservoir mounts, but that should be fine, just not the super fancy nice mounts that I was expecting to have.



Lastly I wanted to give an update on the watercooling internal design, I can't do the full loop without the cpu block obviously but I have been brainstorming how to best execute the other theme of the three heads inside the case. Currently this is what I've got cooking for the GPUs.

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So the first place I took the piece to said they couldn't guarantee that it wouldn't be orange, which is a no go for me. So I'm taking it to another place to see what I can do. In the meantime, I'm working on the loop, ordering new fittings here and there to make it possible. This case supports more radiator than any I've used before but wow that many pieces makes it hard too.

Here's what I was thinking, sorry for the CPU block missing, as said it's dismantled. However it is also the cause of an interesting problem for me. The inlet is on the right and the outlet is on the left, meaning a typical clockwise flow doesn't really work.

For context, the pump will be in the back compartment, near the bottom of the res, but on the other side.

The problem with this one, while visually cleaner, the flow goes counter clockwise. Meaning I need 4 passthru fittings to allow the bottom flow to go to the top of the res and the bottom of the res to the pump to the top.



Here is more or less a suggested flow from bouncing the idea off some other people.



Note the fitting contraption to the right of the GPUs will have the tubing leaving it go straight back then up or down based on option one or two.

Also another benefit of option 1, is that visually the res would look like it's floating with the only tubing going to it passing straight into the back wall.

This kind of doesn't matter too much because the build will be on it's side in its finished state, however I do want to be able to convert it to an upright position from time to time.
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