vläd1626861129 Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 So far, I am VERY impressed with what I see here. Just a couple of quick questions... What are the dimensions of the two keyboards?What is the estimated date that the keyboards will hit the street? Thanks! You guys rock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimmant Posted September 16, 2011 Share Posted September 16, 2011 Yes, I'm loving the new keyboards as well! I'm just wondering if the specs are true and that only the K90 has: •Adjustable feet tilt for optimum personalization and positioning I would love it on the K60 as I feel that the black Macro button portion of the K90 takes too much place and detracts from the otherwise clean aluminumlook. I'm guessing it's not detachable? :) Otherwise I'd like to request a non-gamer version of the keyboard, with plain black keys, no Macro keys and perhaps in a tenkeyless design(without the numpad). I really love that you're using Cherry Reds and the clean aluminium look, just one minor detail that's keeping me from jumping on one. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 2. http://www.corsair.com/pressrelease/corsair-announces-new-vengeance-gaming-keyboard-and-laser-gaming-mice The full range of Vengeance gaming peripherals are expected to be available in October 2011 from authorized Corsair retailers and etailers worldwide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalusTF Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Firstly, I just bought the HS1's and have had a great time with them, so I'm looking forward to your new products. I have one major suggestion that I ran by a few guild mates. As avid MMO gamers, and as players prepping for SWTOR, we're looking to upgrade our computers, and peripherals. That means mechanical keyboards over membranes. Lot's of us are truly interested in the FPS keyboard over the MMO keyboard due to the lack of the macro keys we have no use for. (your mouse covers that). So my suggestion is, why not provide a K60 with a backlighting option? I very much love the idea of the rubberized bright orange keys as well. I highly suggest selling them separately for your K90 customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persentio Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Are there any plans to make the K60 / K90 available in a larger variety of Cherry switches other than Red in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Are there any plans to make the K60 / K90 available in a larger variety of Cherry switches other than Red in the future?Why would you want other switches? What's the advantage to other ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persentio Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 Why would you want other switches? What's the advantage to other ones? Simply put, there is no one "best" switch. Each provides their own unique 'feel' to typing and the best match all boils down to the user. All those paper specifications on actuation force, travel distance, tactility, etc. are all well and good, but it is another thing altogether to try each and every switch for yourself. (Yes; I've tried all Black, Blue, Brown, and Red on the same kind of keyboard model from another manufacturer. Clear I could not find where I'm at) For me, the perfect match was Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted September 20, 2011 Corsair Employee Share Posted September 20, 2011 We have Reds. We felt this was the best switch for gamers due to their light actuation force, linear design and no click. The blacks and the reds are the top 2 key switches that are Linear, all of the other Cherry switches have a tactile bump. Part of this comes down to “feel” but something with a bump provides resistance and you could argue a varied amount of force to depress (when trying to achieve fast double and triple clicks as well as over a long period of gaming). The combination of a linear key switch and the light force associated with the key press is a powerful combination in a key switch design…this is what the Reds provide to us. Below is a chart that I made for your reference. Currently there is no plan to change to a different keyswitch. If we do have a change in direction in future products, we will announce those as they become available….none are planned at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
draterrojam Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 not sure if this has been answered, but I didn't see it anywhere. Is there a release date anywhere? I'm looking forward to these, the look awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 October / November I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazysloth Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Do you know if I can get a review board? I would be glad to do a write-up for the k90 or k60 keyboard at geekhack.org:D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
persentio Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 We have Reds. We felt this was the best switch for gamers due to their light actuation force, linear design and no click. The blacks and the reds are the top 2 key switches that are Linear, all of the other Cherry switches have a tactile bump. Part of this comes down to “feel” but something with a bump provides resistance and you could argue a varied amount of force to depress (when trying to achieve fast double and triple clicks as well as over a long period of gaming). The combination of a linear key switch and the light force associated with the key press is a powerful combination in a key switch design…this is what the Reds provide to us. Below is a chart that I made for your reference. Currently there is no plan to change to a different keyswitch. If we do have a change in direction in future products, we will announce those as they become available….none are planned at this time. Thanks for that!! I guess I'll try and see if I can 'switch' to the Reds even tho I've been on browns for so long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snyper64 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Mostly liking the k60 but the only thing I am wondering about is why no back-lit keys? That is the only con I can see from the specs, the only other may be no tilt but i haven't seen any pictures of the bottom of the board. Also I hope you will make a brushed black version as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Do you know if I can get a review board? I would be glad to do a write-up for the k90 or k60 keyboard at geekhack.org:D.Ask through the press contacts on the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted September 22, 2011 Corsair Employee Share Posted September 22, 2011 Please look back through the thread as there are some changes that were made in my statement as requested by the Keyboard Product Manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutral_Eyes Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Part of this comes down to “feel” but something with a bump provides resistance and you could argue a varied amount of force to depress (when trying to achieve fast double and triple clicks as well as over a long period of gaming). The combination of a linear key switch and the light force associated with the key press is a powerful combination in a key switch design…this is what the Reds provide to us. That's actually why I'm not too fond of the linear switches. With the Cherry mechanical switch, you've got 2mm to activate the key followed by another 2mm to bottom out, but if you're precise and quick with multiple key presses after bottoming out, the switch might not have traveled enough to reset for another activation. Granted, this stems from habits developed on membrane keyboards, but with gaming keyboards swinging towards mechanical switches, it may be difficult for new converts to see the value. If you're bottoming out the keys, you have to let off enough to reactivate the switch. The only other option is to learn the activation point and hover there for quick multiple presses. I was frustrated at first when I moved to a Cherry black switch board and didn't perform as well as I had with my old membrane - so frustrated that I bought a Cherry brown board and never looked back. The Cherry brown switch seemed like exactly what I was looking for after using membranes, blue, and black switches. The tactile bump ensures that I don't press a key I didn't intend to, it also tells me where the activation point is. If I need to hit a key rapidly, I'm aware of where my finger(s) needs to be for multiple quick presses. Maybe now that I've lived with a mechanical keyboard for a while, it'll be easier to transition into a linear switch and see its benefits; I'm more than willing to give the K60 a shot. I understand why Corsair went with the reds, but I also see the reasons for others desiring a different switch. Aside from that, I think the new gaming peripherals look outstanding, very much "Do it right the first time." ::pirate:: Also, while the Cherry brown switch's pressure point before activation reaches 55g, the activation force is only 45g. Just something to note for your table. http://i.imgur.com/Dp7Gf.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsair Employee RAM GUY Posted September 27, 2011 Corsair Employee Share Posted September 27, 2011 I believe that Key Board and Mouse/Mice can be a personal item; in other word's one persons Key Bord is a god send for that person and for another its not easy to use. I think that goes with out saying. And just like a new car or New Bike though they function the same as the previous one, but they may react differently and may take some getting use to on our part. I also think that what I call Tamato you might call Tomato, or you might see the glass as half empty and I would see it as half full. So its up to what we like individually and its good that you seem to have put a great deal of thought into what you prefer. However I also can tell you from experience that what I have thought would be a good choice has several times turned out to be the opposite of what I had thought. I guess what I am trying to say here is while this is a good starting point and being from Mo. You really need to show me, so lets see how it feels when its available then we can make the call of what we like or do not like. I would encourage you to try them out in any number of retail stores as I am sure our Key Board will be popular and carried in most of our retail outlets, Fry's, Best Buy, Comp USA and so on. So please lets convict it before we hang is all I am trying to say. :D: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papalazaru Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Should have gone Brown really. Tried and tested, loved by gamers and typists alike. Definitely a try before you buy item. Shame, I really liked that keyboard. Get Browns in, and my lovely Logitech Illuminated will get some early retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApokalipseMeow Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Below is a chart that I made for your reference. MX-brown switches have a 45g actuation force, not 55g. That's the difference between the browns and clears. I would also like to see a version with MX-browns - and no rubber dome switches. I think it should be something like: Tactile version = MX-brown switches for most keys, MX-clears for F & macro keys Linear version = MX-red switches for most keys, MX-blacks for F & macro keys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vläd1626861129 Posted November 4, 2011 Author Share Posted November 4, 2011 So far, I am VERY impressed with what I see here. Just a couple of quick questions... What are the dimensions of the two keyboards?What is the estimated date that the keyboards will hit the street? Does anyone have the dimensions on these puppies yet? I kinda need to know before placing a pre-order. much 'preciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnettenba Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 From reviews, people who used browns and reds alike, most everyone prefers the Reds, both for gaming and typing. Most people don't even seem to feel the 'tactile' bump on the Browns. I think they made the right choice by going reds, given how well it's recieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzinti1 Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Damn shame they ain't backlit. Pass. I'll stick with my deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fvbounty Posted November 6, 2011 Share Posted November 6, 2011 Damn shame they ain't backlit. Pass. I'll stick with my deck. The K90 is backlit the K 60 isn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kzinti1 Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 The K90 is backlit the K 60 isn't! I'm sorry. This is the 1st time I've heard mention of this extremely useful function. My keyboard uses Cherry MX-1 Clear keys with 6 levels of illumination. Plus off, of course. I wonder how Corsair managed this with non-clear keys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wired Posted November 7, 2011 Share Posted November 7, 2011 I'm sorry. This is the 1st time I've heard mention of this extremely useful function. My keyboard uses Cherry MX-1 Clear keys with 6 levels of illumination. Plus off, of course. I wonder how Corsair managed this with non-clear keys?You don't see the light through the keys, just between the keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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