This is buggin me (Purchasing advice) - Page 2

NfiniteZERO · #16 11-03-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tI2ouI3LeSoIVIe

GPARTED would have done that from you from a bootable Linux environment. That would have saved you a ton of headache. Sorry, I didn't come up with that earlier. Sounds like you got it now though.

No worries man. Honestly, I think I was just under information overload because I had the answer right in front of me but I just didn't see it. Then the answer hit me like a ton of bricks and I decided to give it a dry run before I ordered the drives. I'm glad I did, so now I know what to do when they get here.

Truth be told though, it's better to use the Rescue mode for Win7 or Vista to partition the drives. Just looking all over the web and I see re-images gone bad because the offset for the drives defaults to the old WinXP value of 32kb. Trust me, I am for less headache all the time.

Going to order the drives but for now, I'll post the current benchmark for my machine in ATTO. Hopefully we'll see some major improvements.

tI2ouI3LeSoIVIe · #17 11-03-2009, 03:40 PM

Looks solid, better than I was getting before the X128s.

As for the other comment, extreme measures? In all reality you're right all you should have to do is run Win7 setup and it should work, but with the performance issues SSDs inherently have you must use other tools to regain performance. If you've loaded windows 50+ times and haven't securely wiped (HDDERASE) the SSD(s) you have, then that explains the need to reload Windows 50+ times! If you botch your partitioning on accident, it happens in the quest to gain ultimate performance, then sometimes you need to go to a more "extreme measure" or use the tools designed for people that have the technical proficiency to use them and not destroy their hardware. Windows uses "dummied" up versions of the programs described in some of these threads to minimize liability. When you want stuff done thoroughly sometimes you must go to more powerful apps. Windows does not allow you to securely wipe a SSD at all. The only way to do it is from applications like GPARTED or HDDERASE.

NfiniteZERO · #18 11-03-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JohntechUSA

I have not ran into this and have installed Windows 7 50+ times on many SSD's drives and I have never had to use any of these extreme measures to format the drive. Windows 7 will use the correct alocation on any SSD drive I have tested and has worked fine with default settings on any drive I have tested. Only in a raid configuration have I had to tweak the settings to get optimized performance but I will try to duplicate this in the future and post anything I find.

Hrm...from what I've understood doing a quick format in Windows setup with a RAW drive will end up with a cluster size of 4k by default. That is, unless you cut into DiskPart like I did.

I just made an image with TI on my laptop with the SSD so I will try testing this out in the afternoon with a clean install to the SSD, barring anything that comes up between now and then.

NfiniteZERO · #19 11-03-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tI2ouI3LeSoIVIe

Looks solid, better than I was getting before the X128s.

As for the other comment, extreme measures? In all reality you're right all you should have to do is run Win7 setup and it should work, but with the performance issues SSDs inherently have you must use other tools to regain performance. If you've loaded windows 50+ times and haven't securely wiped (HDDERASE) the SSD(s) you have, then that explains the need to reload Windows 50+ times! If you botch your partitioning on accident, it happens in the quest to gain ultimate performance, then sometimes you need to go to a more "extreme measure" or use the tools designed for people that have the technical proficiency to use them and not destroy their hardware. Windows uses "dummied" up versions of the programs described in some of these threads to minimize liability. When you want stuff done thoroughly sometimes you must go to more powerful apps. Windows does not allow you to securely wipe a SSD at all. The only way to do it is from applications like GPARTED or HDDERASE.

Oh crap, I need more coffee. Meant to say partition the drives, not format them! Sorry for the miscommunication - I'll fix my post.

Wired · #20 11-03-2009, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tI2ouI3LeSoIVIe

If you've loaded windows 50+ times and haven't securely wiped (HDDERASE) the SSD(s) you have, then that explains the need to reload Windows 50+ times!

I think he's talking about many system builds, not 50+ times on the same system.

tI2ouI3LeSoIVIe · #21 11-03-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Wired

I think he's talking about many system builds, not 50+ times on the same system.

I was actually referring to johntech's post. I've probably reloaded Win7 50+ times, lol. I really can't talk, but I do wipe the drives periodically.

Wired · #22 11-03-2009, 04:33 PM

Yes, I know you were referring to his post :)

NfiniteZERO · #23 11-03-2009, 04:35 PM

Order just went through and will be here soon (next day hopefully).

I'm off to ask forgiveness from the account manager and balancer of the checkbook...wish me luck guys

tI2ouI3LeSoIVIe · #24 11-03-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NfiniteZERO

Order just went through and will be here soon (next day hopefully).

I'm off to ask forgiveness from the account manager and balancer of the checkbook...wish me luck guys

You'll need it if she's like mine! I still am catching hell for the SSDs, the new motherboard that's virtually the same as the old and since I was already in hot water I made it boil with the Razer Megalodon!